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The Bible, Not As Original As You'd Think

Skwim

Skwim

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sooda

sooda

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Skwim said:
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I have a feeling that its older and far more complicated than we could ever dream it..

Chapter Five: Abraham and the Kingdom of Ugarit

The Religion of Ugarit. And the answer to this question is that Ugarit, above all else, was a Canaanite city, though it certainly had a cosmopolitan population. The Canaanites are virtually indistinguishable from the Phoenicians, so that, in a quite real sense, Abraham was a king of the Phoenicians.
Five: Abraham and the Kingdom of Ugarit
 
VoidCat

VoidCat

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Quoting: Similarities and Differences Between the Egyptian God Horus and Jesus
◆ Horus did not have a virgin birth. His widowed mother, Goddess Isis conceived through Osiris after she magically resembled his body parts. Isis is never mentioned as Mary or named Mary in any of the Egyptian texts and records.
◆ Horus is described as God according to the ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead, written in 1280 B.C. It is actually a collection of spells and incantations which were used as protection for the dead in the after-life. Horus is depicted only through vignettes in the book and no actual account of his life is presented. In fact much of his information comes from mythological legends, stories, and cult.
◆ Horus is mentioned as the son of Osiris in various Egyptian mythologies and he never had a foster father.
◆ Horus was born in the deserts of Egypt not in a cave. There is no mention of him being born on December 25th in the Book of the Dead, the Egyptian mythologies or book of Gods and Goddesses. The only fact mentioned is that he was born during the Egyptian month of Khoiak. In present day context, the Egyptian calendar cannot be co-related since the Egyptian calendar was stringently based on the tidal fluctuations of the Nile river.
◆ An angel never visited Isis before the birth of Osiris, and the three solar deities are never mentioned in any mythological sources. Isis after the birth of Horus had the baby hidden away from the anger of Set and not Herud. The claims of his birth being witnessed by simple shepherds and the heralding of his birth by star Sirius is also false as there are no mentions of them in the ancient Egyptian texts.
◆ In none of the Egyptian texts or accounts, Horus is projected as a teacher. In fact he spent much of his life trying to avenge the death of his slain father hence he never witnessed a water baptism or had a ministry or 12 disciples. The concatenation of Anup the Baptizer sprung from the writings of Gerald Massey who invented the character in many of writings about Egypt. His works on Egyptology are considered in poor light by fellow professional Egyptologists and archaeologists who state that his works lack historical evidence.
Archaeological evidence found from ancient Egyptian tomb paintings and sculptures depict that the pharaohs witnessed a washing ritual before the official coronation ceremony only by the hands of gods. This simply means that it was a spiritual cleansing and not the actual ceremony. No evidence has been found of Horus being ritualistically washed by any of the Gods or Goddesses.
◆ Horus went out to the desert not to fast and pray but to fight a series of battle challenges posed by his evil uncle, Set in order to gain the throne of Egypt and avenge the murder of this father.

◆ The healing associated with the 'Eye of Horus' is prevalent among the cult believers of Horus, Horus personally did not display any healings or miracles. There are no ancient accounts supporting the claims of Horus as the divine healer.
◆ Horus did not suffer crucifixion except an injury to his left eye during the battle with Set. He killed Set and revenged the death of his father. After which the Gods crowned him as the supreme King of Egypt. Hence he is also known as the God of Kingship. Moreover this kind of crucifix punishment is never mentioned in any of the Egyptian texts, Egyptians were known to mummify not crucify. The Horus cult predominantly clings with the pharaohs of Egypt as they conceived that they were the living representation of Horus.

◆ The legend of Horus is the story of avenge and he nowhere appears as the 'Savior of humanity' or as the 'One who came to wipe out people's sins.'

◆ Many of the claims made by conspiracy theorists is based on the assumptions and writings by Gerald Massey which is not considered as an authentic source of information. Hence people should be careful and critical about what is being projected to you in the name of history.
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I actually don't know if the site is reliable but this info does line up with reliable sources on Egypt that I have read.
 
Jainarayan

Jainarayan

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We can add to this the birth story of Krishna, which is believed to be about 1,200 years before Jesus. I believe much of the birth story of Jesus was taken from Krishna's.
  • Mother becomes transcendentally pregnant. Mary became transcendentally pregnant.
  • Krishna is born in a prison cell. Jesus is born in a cave, stable, or such lowly place not befitting a god or royalty.
  • His father was not his biological father; he had no biological father, being an incarnation of God (Vishnu). Actually he had two foster fathers.
  • He was secreted away to Nanda and Yashoda (his other foster father and his foster mother) just after his birth because an evil king (his maternal uncle) sought to kill him. It was prophesied that Krishna would kill the king.
  • A vision told Vasudeva, his father to hide him from his uncle.
  • He was of royal descent.
  • His mission was to restore dharma, righteousness.
  • He was born at midnight, birth star is Rohini.
  • The Goddess Durga appeared to the king to tell him that he couldn't kill Krishna because he was already born and hidden away safely.
  • Krishna joined his father's livelihood of raising cattle. Jesus became a carpenter like his foster father.
 
VoidCat

VoidCat

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Jainarayan said:
We can add to this the birth story of Krishna, which is believed to be about 1,200 years before Jesus. I believe much of the birth story of Jesus was taken from Krishna's.
  • Mother becomes transcendentally pregnant. Mary became transcendentally pregnant.
  • Krishna is born in a prison cell. Jesus is born in a cave, stable, or such lowly place not befitting a god or royalty.
  • His father was not his biological father; he had no biological father, being an incarnation of God (Vishnu). Actually he had two foster fathers.
  • He was secreted away to Nanda and Yashoda (his other foster father and his foster mother) just after his birth because an evil king (his maternal uncle) sought to kill him. It was prophesied that Krishna would kill the king.
  • A vision told Vasudeva, his father to hide him from his uncle.
  • He was of royal descent.
  • His mission was to restore dharma, righteousness.
  • He was born at midnight, birth star is Rohini.
  • The Goddess Durga appeared to the king to tell him that he couldn't kill Krishna because he was already born and hidden away safely.
  • Krishna joined his father's livelihood of raising cattle. Jesus became a carpenter like his foster father.
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Sources?Also i found this don't know if it's reliable haven't looked into the sources it cites yet...:

Krishna and Christ: Debunking the Parallels between Jesus and Krishna
 
VoidCat

VoidCat

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Also I would like to add december 25 is not when jesus was born...That's was the day chose to celebrate it in order to coincide with Yule...
 
InChrist

InChrist

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Skwim said:
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Jesus is not a copy, These inaccurate claims are not new and get so tiresome...

"Proponents of this view, known as mythicists, say that Jesus was nothing more than a copy of popular dying and rising fertility gods in various places from around the world, some of these gods would include Tammuz in Mesopotamia, Adonis in Syria, Attis in Asia Minor, and Horus in Egypt.


It has only been in recent times that the mythicist allegations have been re-established due to the rise of the internet and the mass distribution of information from unaccountable, unreliable sources. In this article we are going to examine these parallels, and see whether or not they stand up to scrutiny.


So, let us uncover the many reasons ‘why scholars know that Jesus is not a copy of pagan religions’. And when I say “scholars” it is not solely those of a Christian orientation but from diverse other backgrounds and religious views as well, including atheists.

1. Professional scholars unanimously reject the claim that Jesus is a pagan copy.
Today just about every scholar in the relevant historical specializations unanimously rejects the notion that Jesus is a copy of pagan gods. It seems that the available evidence has persuaded them against these alleged parallels. For instance, T.N.D Mettinger of Lund University opines:"

22 Reasons All Scholars Agree Jesus Is Not A Copy Of Pagan Gods
 
Audie

Audie

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InChrist said:
Jesus is not a copy, These inaccurate claims are not new and get so tiresome...

"Proponents of this view, known as mythicists, say that Jesus was nothing more than a copy of popular dying and rising fertility gods in various places from around the world, some of these gods would include Tammuz in Mesopotamia, Adonis in Syria, Attis in Asia Minor, and Horus in Egypt.


It has only been in recent times that the mythicist allegations have been re-established due to the rise of the internet and the mass distribution of information from unaccountable, unreliable sources. In this article we are going to examine these parallels, and see whether or not they stand up to scrutiny.


So, let us uncover the many reasons ‘why scholars know that Jesus is not a copy of pagan religions’. And when I say “scholars” it is not solely those of a Christian orientation but from diverse other backgrounds and religious views as well, including atheists.

1. Professional scholars unanimously reject the claim that Jesus is a pagan copy.
Today just about every scholar in the relevant historical specializations unanimously rejects the notion that Jesus is a copy of pagan gods. It seems that the available evidence has persuaded them against these alleged parallels. For instance, T.N.D Mettinger of Lund University opines:"

22 Reasons All Scholars Agree Jesus Is Not A Copy Of Pagan Gods
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"All Scholars" Right. :D :D :D
 
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