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The Bible and aliens

robocop (actually)

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Fortunately (!), since I wasn't able to explain my book and website here, the #1 movie in the World Noah did all my dirty work for me.

So, if you have any questions about Noah!, let me know.
 

thepersianpuzzle

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I have never really considered aliens as the superior intelligence or being greater than us, such as what we would call God or gods. However, I think it is as possible as the idea that we are in a matrix. If u have an questions about my opinions on being in a matrix then feel free to ask. I will say, I have read through a few posts of this thread regarding the bible being an alien based book. The only thing I have ever heard is people say that those left behind from the rapture will possibly and notice I'm saying possibly, think that those people were abducted.
 

robocop (actually)

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Hi Persian Puzzle. Genesis I think certainly does not say aliens are superior to us; I think the Bible says we are superior. Gen 1:26 says "Our image," and image can mean something better. Gen 2:16-17, with good and evil, means the ability to choose decisions that lead to life or death, in other words science. For a race to be better and scientifically knowledgeable was too much. Gen 11:6 - they were unrestarained. Gen 11:7-8 -so they were confounded, so our inferior extra-terrestrial friends could feel safe. Noah shows hiding in a small space; Raelians say it was a rocket with sperm and eggs to be cloned. Sodom and Gomorrah are resistance cities of the humans that get nuked.
 
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robocop (actually)

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Please tell me everything about your Matrix religion. Mine was in 2001 when I thought that maybe thought sets inhabited a space of all thoughts (the matrix). Disagreement caused pain. So of course, obeying mom and dad meant tradition would insure a safe living, killing would be against humanity, and pornography would be something that deluded you into believing other thoughts which could be dangerous.
 

robocop (actually)

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As for the rapture, I have two scriptures for you.

In Revelation 7:2-3 we learn that foreheads will be sealed of 144,000. These are those already in the best "Heaven"planet, "those who dedicated life to blossoming of humanity, and those who recognize Rael as their messenger after reading the messages.

The rapture itself is in Revelation 21:3-4. Thank you.
 

thepersianpuzzle

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Matrix

Here's my simple thoughts about the matrix.

U and I have both experienced joy in our lives. Mine has mostly been pain but I assume and( u can explain to me why it is not) that the fact that I have joy means:

1. There is weakness in those overseeing the matrix and therefore some sort of weakness in the matrix.

Or 2. Joy and pain are required from those in the matrix for it to work properly

I will continue later.

Thanks.
 

thepersianpuzzle

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If I do not full understand how the matrix works feel free to point that out.

Not seen the movie Noah. Is it about aliens? Or do u see hidden meaning in it?
 

robocop (actually)

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I didn't think yours was simple.

Even in 2001 though, I didn't think there were any overseers, just a mathematical construct (in other words I was an atheist).
I came up with my own Genesis of the matrix from Genesis 1 and especially the first 11 letters that I can tell you about.
I think you have joy and pain switched. It would be a lot easier to control us if joy was what was wanted and pain was negative. I think pain helps knock you upside the head to get you going again on the right choice. Some people only experience joy and pain through what others do. I think its better to make your own pleasure and pain. I don't think pR0n is bad anymore because of this.
 

robocop (actually)

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I plan to use these translations in my argument from google translate.

Genesis 7:17 -

ויהי המבול ארבעים יום על הארץ וירבו המים וישאו את התבה ותרם מעל הארץ

And the flood was forty days upon the earth, and multiply the water and carry the ark and donated over the country
 

robocop (actually)

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Genesis 7:18

ויגברו המים וירבו מאד על הארץ ותלך התבה על פני המים

And the waters prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth, and the ark went upon the waters
 

robocop (actually)

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OK so the "Watchers" were extra-terrestrials from the creator's second day of creation, in other words the beginning of time passing with the laws of physics. Because of the immensity of space, evolution was possible and they were reasonably as crude as could be. After lots of careful evolution however, earth was perfect for the elegant human structure. (The earth is too small for evolution, so if there's no "God" we are created). The "Watchers" watched the human race to see if they were to destroy it. In other words, they were "God" in disguise.

As for other Raelian beliefs about the movie being shown, there were fireballs that came to earth (nukes). Tubal Cain said animals should be subdued, and if you look at Strong's Biblical concordance, this word means to overcome the fear of to use. Note that when the ark landed, there was way not enough room for all the animals to spread out and mate before eating each other.

That's why the word "donate" is so crucial in the translations I showed. Some apparatus had the sperm and egg of each animal and dropped them in waterproof containers in the right place to form the animals when the time was right.
 

Ben Dhyan

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Robocop...are the Raelians aware, that in addition to a hierarchy of beings exhibiting superior consciousness in the physical universe, there are also hierarchies of beings in other vibrationary planes of existence occupying the same 3D universal space that the physical universe does? And then there is a holarchy of cosmic beings from the micro to the macro in which the lessor (micro) live, move, and have their being. For example, in the same way that our organs have a limited degree of autonomous consciousness, and within that the tissues, within that the cells, etc., then above there are planetary beings, stellar beings, galactic beings, and ultimately the absolute universal being which hosts all that exists.
 

robocop (actually)

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Very aware.:yes:

Oh and I meant to say the ark was a rocket. In Noah, the first wave of water does not bear up the ark off of land, which makes sense and shows that those Bibles who say lift high above the ground probably meant just that.
 

Ben Dhyan

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Yes...Zecharia Sitchin's interpretation of Sumerian clay tablets indicate space ships were the means of transport of the advanced beings....the Elohim who produced mankind (Adam and Eve) through genetic engineering and later the Benelohim who produced the hybrid Nephilim offspring when they mated with human females.
 

thepersianpuzzle

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Matrix-

Pain and joy have to be both required or there is no full control over a person as in no full control over us while we r in the matrix.

If u say there are no creators or people who are above us in intelligence that caused us to be in a matrix please help me understand further in simple terms at first, not assuming that I know anything.
 

robocop (actually)

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dear ben d, you might want to check out my post in this thread from last year about different sized beings and how they operate differently in perception and actual reality:

From November 3 of last year

Yes, Gen 1:26 assures we are similar to those who came from the sky, but other aliens could go back in time and change that and change our image.

I imagine the Milky Way blinking in and out things, regardless of supposed time and space, like a gigantic Stratego game, and asteroid belts could contain life, be like blood vessels, or be like bullets from a machine gun.

Imagine the earth, the solar system, or the Milky Way as the main object. First of all, there can be actual radio waves that people can pick up. They might be encrypted for some alien species to try to communicate with and without others. They might be for different sizes, shapes, and speeds of atoms where people can be organized on different material planes, and there would have to be some sort of special atom get-together (for ghosts), or it could be a hoax put on by the aliens. Another way this can happen is that things can be moved around. There can be banks of information, experimental living locations, and places ready to fight, and gravity-like forces can move them all around. Places could get volcano-ed, sun-flared, or nova-ed by the fieriness of the main object and have more turns. I am saying different turns from different spaces and times could show up at different times in the same part of the main object. Also, like the tea cups at Disneyland, information can travel rapidly across one rotation where it happens to meet up well with another, causing lots of high speed networks, but only with knowledge about the geometry. A fast moving tunnel works too.

I forgot to mention rocket warehouses as one of the things that can be moved around and replaced.

HET BEN-BEN means house/temple (HET) rocket (BEN-BEN).
 

robocop (actually)

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dear thepersianpuzzle: please give me some time to think about this. I just saw "The fault in our stars" which was kind of about this stuff and it blew me away.
 
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