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Featured The Best Muslims

Discussion in 'Seekers Circle' started by Ellen Brown, Jul 25, 2019.

  1. Ellen Brown

    Ellen Brown Well-Known Member
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    In my opinion, Indonesian Muslims are the best. The rest are immature children.
     
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    It's still 1400 for them in their calendar; remember what Christian countries were like in 1400?
     
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    What do you think it is about Indonesian Muslims that makes them better?
     
  4. Ellen Brown

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    They seem to be more gentle and open to others living their own lives, not forcing them to be Muslim.
     
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    A rabbi had a small congregation in Jakarta. He said that Indonesia was the one place in which he never experienced anti Semitism. Of course, that doesn’t say much for the “Christian” countries that he had visited.

    It has been my experience with Islam, as limited as it is, that it is a religion of peace and charity. That it has been bastardized by a tiny minority of the 1.6 billion Muslims into a religion of violence is no worse than the violence preached by a small minority of Christians.

    The issues involving Islam today are political. Maybe we should stop invading their countries and denigrating their religion.
     
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    They are also a majority in Indonesia.
     
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    I don't think the comparison helps Islaam's reputation any, and that is before taking into account that lessons should be learned from those that open the way.
     
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    I was being facetious.
     
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    Wot?....Even us Welsh uns? :eek::)
     
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  10. Ellen Brown

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    I converted in 2005, after having been a Fundi Christian for 33 years, and in my very limited experience, I think that the best Muslims are in Indonesia also. I agree with you.
     
  11. Ellen Brown

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    I never met one, so don't know. Many of the Middle Eastern Muslims are just Haram Police. :(
     
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    A bit of generalizations here.
     
  13. Niblo

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    Waʿalaykumu s-salām, sister.

    I was pulling your leg.

    I’m sure you didn’t intend to insult my own (Muslim) family – and the great many others that you have never met, and know nothing about – when you wrote that non-Indonesian Muslims are ‘immature children’.

    My 'Middle Eastern' family are of the Banū Hāshim. Not one is a member of the ‘Haram Police’.

    You realise, of course, that a Muslim is obliged to obey the laws of whatever country they happen to be in; however daft these laws might seem. It’s ok, for example, to stroll arm-in-arm with a spouse in Dubai; but hugging or kissing that same spouse in a public place could result in arrest! It’s ok to munch a bun in the Burj Khalifa…..only be sure it’s not sprinkled with poppy seeds.

    I’m sorry that your experiences have led you to think the way you do. My own are somewhat different.

    It is what it is.

    May Allāh (subḥānahu ūta'āla) guide you, and bring you to Himself.
     
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  14. Ellen Brown

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    My apologies for insulting you. I do know some Muslims, both Sunni and Shia from the Middle East, that are very nice. I live in a College Town, in Portland, Oregon and one of the Universities has a large Muslim population. I see all sorts from those who are friendly and helpful to those who.... Yes, well. I should not generalize. Again I apologize. May Allah SWT forgive me.

    Ma Salama

    Khadijah
     
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    I get the impression that Indonesian Muslims are very strict. Do they still execute and beat their convicts? And if so, what for?
     
  16. IndigoChild5559

    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    Ha! Excellent point.

    And for Jews, we are in the year 5779. Technically that is an exaggeration, since it is a measurement of how many years since the mythical creation, not since Abraham. But you get the point.
     
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  17. Rival

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    Yes, I tend to use 5779 as my standard date now. I often forget what the other date is.
     
  18. IndigoChild5559

    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    Wow, you are really immerse! Do you live in Israel? Do you also use the lunar months of the Jewish calendar? In my experience, you favor one or the other, its really almost impossible to do both. I have a calendar that each page is a month on the Gregorian calendar, but each day notes its date in the Jewish Calendar for me. It gives candle lighting times, etc.
     
  19. Rival

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    No, I live in England. I guess it's part of my backlash against living in a Christian-normative society. I am not accustomed to lunar months yet though.
     
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  20. Ellen Brown

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    I had not heard that.
     
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