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The 'bad argument' from atheism,no personal truth

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Personal truth is a thing. Of course it is, however it may not mean what you think, either.

Personal truth can be unknown to the [atheist, yet still be "reality".

Why this isn't abstract:

In the methodology by which we determine personal truths, we although using a subjective configuration, may not go against a 'usual argument' by an atheist. This is why saying that something must be evidenced to the one saying something isn't real, is itself a subjective endeavor.

In other words, 'by subjectivity, will determine a truth that has to have a agreed upon configuration or estimation, and claim it matches [whatever fictional subjective configuration, [[one might use'.


In other words, back to subjectivity, in the variable truth estimation.
 

siti

Well-Known Member
This is why saying that something must be evidenced to the one saying something isn't real, is itself a subjective endeavor.
You seem to be objecting to the 'atheist's' demand for evidence in regard to the existence of deities...I think...

But your argument is wrong because when an atheist makes such an argument, they are not looking for a personal experience to convince them, they are asking for objective, testable evidence to corroborate the claims of believers in the existence of deities. You presumably (he asked rather doubtfully) recognize the difference between the objective evidence of the existence of, say, the earth, or trees, or cats and dogs...and the entirely subjective 'experiences' of believers in supernatural 'things'?
 

Phaedrus

Active Member
The voices to a schizophrenic are a personal truth as well as a personal reality. It does not mean the voices being heard are real, however. The same can be stated for the god concept.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Personal truth is a thing. Of course it is, however it may not mean what you think, either.

Personal truth can be unknown to the [atheist, yet still be "reality".

Why this isn't abstract:

In the methodology by which we determine personal truths, we although using a subjective configuration, may not go against a 'usual argument' by an atheist. This is why saying that something must be evidenced to the one saying something isn't real, is itself a subjective endeavor.

In other words, 'by subjectivity, will determine a truth that has to have a agreed upon configuration or estimation, and claim it matches [whatever fictional subjective configuration, [[one might use'.


In other words, back to subjectivity, in the variable truth estimation.

Something is either true or it is not true. It's a binary thing. What is the difference between a "personal" truth and and "actual" truth???
 
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