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The Assyrian Antichrist

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by OtherSheep, Jul 25, 2018.

  1. OtherSheep

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    The Assyrian Antichrist,
    Before Armageddon.

    Micah 5:1 Now shall the daughter of Sion be completely hedged in: he has laid siege against us: they shall smite the tribes of Israel with a rod upon the cheek.
    2 And thou, Bethleem, house of Ephratha, art few in number to be reckoned among the thousands of Juda; yet out of thee shall one come forth to me, to be a ruler of Israel; and His goings forth were from the beginning, even from eternity.
    3 Therefore shall He appoint them to wait till the time of her that travails: she shall bring forth, and then the remnant of their brethren shall return to the children of Israel. 4 And the Lord shall stand, and see, and feed His flock with power, and they shall dwell in the glory of the name of the Lord their God: for now shall they be magnified to the ends of the earth.
    5 And she shall have peace when Assur shall come into your land, and when he shall come up upon your country; and there shall be raised up against him seven shepherds, and eight attacks of men. 6 And they shall tend the Assyrian with a sword, and the land of Nebrod with her trench: and He shall deliver you from the Assyrian, when he shall come upon your land, and when he shall invade your coasts.

    Esaias 66:6 A voice of a cry from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the Lord rendering recompence to his adversaries. 7 Before she that travailed brought forth, before the travail-pain came on, she escaped it and brought forth a male. 8 Who has heard such a thing? and who has seen after this manner? Has the earth travailed in one day? or has even a nation been born at once, that Sion has travailed, and brought forth her children?

    Revelation 12:1 And a great sign was seen in the heaven, a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars, 2 and being with child she doth cry out, travailing and pained to bring forth. 3 And there was seen another sign in the heaven, and, lo, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his head seven diadems, 4 and his tail doth draw the third of the stars of the heaven, and he did cast them to the earth; and the dragon did stand before the woman who is about to bring forth, that when she may bring forth, her child he may devour; 5 and she brought forth a male child, who is about to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, and caught away was her child unto God and His throne, 6 and the woman did flee to the wilderness, where she hath a place made ready from God, that there they may nourish her -- days a thousand, two hundred, sixty.

    Gog of Magog,
    Armageddon.

    Ezekiel 38:1 And the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, and the land of Magog, Rhos, prince of Mesoch and Thobel, and prophesy against him, 3 and say to him, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, Rhos prince of Mesoch and Thobel: 4 and I will gather thee, and all thine host, horses and horsemen, all wearing breast-plates, with a great multitude, shields and helmets and swords: 5 Persians, and Ethiopians, and Libyans; all with helmets and shields. 6 Gomer, and all belonging to him; the house of Thorgama, from the end of the north, and all belonging to him; and many nations with thee.

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    "1823 map by Robert Wilkinson (see also 1797 version here). Prior to the mid-19th century, Shem was associated with all of Asia, Ham with all of Africa and Japheth with all of Europe."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generations_of_Noah
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Atlas_Classica,_Robert_Wilkinson,_1797.pdf

    All of the Japhethites never moved to where they are today, but sent out colonies as all nations did when they became overpopulated. To me this means that the Russian Federation will eventually combine with Islam, which will have taken over the world. The salt of Islam is sufism, which is taught in the churches by another name... both of which came from Persia.
     
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    If you study Gog and Magog; they were actually in an area of modern day Turkey. This may be a better fit for Gog and Magog than the traditional view that it's Russia. Still, I'm open to anything because I don't know until I see it clearly.
     
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    I have studied it for quite a while now, and some things are still a bit fuzzy.

    Which of these translations have it right?

    "against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal"(KJV)

    "against Gog, and the land of Magog, Rhos, prince of Mesoch and Thobel, and prophesy against him, and say to him, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, Rhos prince of Mesoch and Thobel"(Septuagint)

    "unto Gog, of the land of Magog, prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy concerning him,and thou hast said: Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Lo, I [am] against thee, O Gog, Prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, And I have turned thee back, And I have put hooks in thy jaws, And have brought thee out, and all thy force, Horses and horsemen, Clothed in perfection all of them, A numerous assembly, [with] buckler and shield, Handling swords -- all of them. Persia, Cush, and Phut, with them, All of them [with] shield and helmet. Gomer and all its bands, The house of Togarmah of the sides of the north, And all its bands, many peoples with thee,"(YLT)

    Doesn't this mean that the story of Gog and Magog is nothing less than the beast and his horns?

    What does this do with The Assyrian of Micah 5?

    "And this man {Jesus} shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men. And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver [us] from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders."(KJV)

    In Ezekiel 27, Tyrus is given the same description as is Babylon in Revelation 18. And in Isaiah 23, Tyre is called the land of the Chaldeans, created by the Assyrian (a cedar in Lebanon in Ezekiel 31)... and this Tyre is also Jerusalem re: the 70 years forgotten, etc. So... which of those three cities will be destroyed?

    "and the rest, having laid hold on his servants, did insult and slay [them]. And the king having heard, was wroth, and having sent forth his soldiers, he destroyed those murderers, and their city he set on fire;"(Matthew 22)

    Jesus told us that His Father will miserably destroy the Pharisees who killed the Son; now He tells us that His Father will burn the city of the people who killed His servants which will be inviting people to the wedding of the Son. ... So, either God will burn "Jerusalem which killeth the prophets"... or the people who kill the prophets in Jerusalem... actually belong to another city. These ones seem to be Assyrians, since the Undivided Kingdom will be destroying both Assyria and the land of Nimrod.

    Doesn't all of this mean that Gog (living in Magog) is The Assyrian Antichrist?
     
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    Ezekiel tells us where these nations ended up.

    Magog, Meshech, and Tubal -- Scythian nations of Eastern Europe and Siberia.

    Persia, Cush, and Phut, with them -- The main body of the nation of Islam.

    Gomer and the house of Togarmah of the sides of the north -- Western Europeans.
    The map is correct... Togarmah is Scandinavia, Riphath is Great Britain.
     
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    Lucifer is Assyrian. See Isaiah 14:25. This is awesome. Great work. The creatures in Revelation are part of the Assyrian mythos. An example is in chapter 9 the scorpian men Scorpion man - Wikipedia
     
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    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    Isaiah 14:25 looks like it might tie Esau in, as well, because of breaking his yoke. At what point was Esau supposed to be able to break the yoke of Jacob, and what would happen then? We almost can't ever forget that he's back there, can we? And that he has a grudge against the trickster.

    The scorpion... seems to be the mark of the beast, because Scorpion means pierce in the Greek, and the root of the word means mark. It also seems to me that the Breastplates tie these men to those who come over the dried up Euphrates... and maybe these breastplates are like the marks on a shield... the colors of the owner, or his flag, today?

    Dan is given the bad rap of being missing in the tribes sealed by God, but people don't think about Dan as being the man who had daughters... which probably won't be sealed as the 144k. And Dan being like a serpent and biting the horse's heel can't be a bad thing if it's one of the horses of the Revelation.
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    I do have one correction to say about that map, however... it seems to me (after having read Davies Celtic Researches) that Riphath belongs to the Slavic people, and that Ashkenaz not only lived on the northern border of Europe, but moved up into Britain at a very early age.

    We are always learning, aren't we... so it's probably a good thing that I never decided to write a book. :oops:
     
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    "... the great Hebrew sage Saadia Gaon ... for the sons of Japheth in Genesis 10. 2, Saadia wrote Turk (for Gomer), Yajuj (the Arabic form of Magog), Mahat (for Madai), Al Yunaniun (the Arabic form of Javan, but he retained the Hebrew form in the tribal phrase “Sons of Javan” in verse 4), Al Sin (China, for Tubal), Al Khorasan (for Meshech), Fars (for Tiras)."

    The Six Days of Creation

    Which leaves only Javan as the sole progenitor of Western Europe. And Dardanus becomes the father of the Scandinavians, via the Prose Edda, and Britain is also fathered by the Dodonim... a plural word, which some maps are telling us belong to some volcanic islands near Anatolia. But Pliny says that Rhodes didn't exist when Genesis was written, and Bochart agrees with him, making Rodanim the Rhone of France. Bochart has a couple of very interesting maps, one of Anatolia which shows the sons of Gomer (Sarmatians, according to 6 days of Creation... progeny of the Turkish Gomer) along with all of the other tribes of Genesis. The book is available online, in Latin.

    All of this means that what Petrie calls the Neglected British History, as well as the so-called mythology of Snorri's Edda... are not really myths at all. But for some reason, what the Chinese (Tubal) says about their own history has been cast down, and Gomer ... because a name in a foreign language sounds like a name in a local language, sounds like what the Cymry call themselves. Heth was described as a Mongolian by Sayce who viewed the Egyptian Monuments... and Heth is a left-over from the Turanian Language-speaking peoples. Which also makes sense of the fact that the Sclavonians claim to have been living in Eastern Europe, time out of mind.

    The Cymry say that their summer land was near where Constantinople stood... making a very large percentage of Western Europe saying that they came from the Dardanelles, by their own histories... rather than the histories of the people who keep changing their minds about who is who. And all of this makes me have to go back to what I originally believed: that the Celtic Britons are closely related to the original occupants of the Peloponese: The Pelasgians. Because they match the descriptions of the Britons: Tall, dark-haired, slender. Jubainville has an account called the First Inhabitants, with an entire section dedicated to these people. And they seem to be the Minoans of Crete, as well.


    So, what does this have to do with the Assyrian Antichrist?... the hordes of Gomer were never Western Europeans... and therefore, the Gog Magog war is not Armageddon. Although, there is a place in Great Britain, where Brutus fought the giants called Gog Magog... making sense of the ancient Mongoloid skulls found in France, as well. Gog of Magog is an entirely Oriental expedition... and makes sense, given who the factories belong to, these days.
     
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    Assur is in northwestern Iraq, the home of Saddam Hussein, which was part of Assyria. Saddam was crushed by a coalition of countries
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    Your Armageddon, or Har-Magedo, is a reference to a place between Jerusalem and Damascus, and is referenced in Revelation 16:15-16 to the place where "all the kings of the whole world", will be "gathered", as in Zechariah 14:1-3, where the LORD will come to fight. Barak Obama brought the 120 nations of the world to Paris in January 2017 to condemn the nation of Israel. Such as them being gathered against Jerusalem.

    The reunification of Judah and Israel follows that fight (Ez 36-37). Ez 38 is post millennium, when Israel will be a "land of unwalled villages". (Ez 38:11)
     
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    Jasher 10:35 "And in the second year after the tower a man from the house of Ashur, whose name was Bela, went from the land of Ninevah to sojourn with his household wherever he could find a place; and they came until opposite the cities of the plain against Sodom, and they dwelt there. 36 And the man rose up and built there a small city, and called its name Bela, after his name; that is the land of Zoar unto this day."
     
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    Jasher 10:7 And these are the sons of Japheth according to their families, Gomer, Magog, Medai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech and Tiras; these are the children of Japheth according to their generations.
    8 And the children of Gomer, according to their cities, were the Francum, who dwell in the land of Franza, by the river Franza, by the river Senah.
    9 And the children of Rephath are the Bartonim, who dwell in the land of Bartonia by the river Ledah, which empties its waters in the great sea Gihon, that is, oceanus.
    10 And the children of Tugarma are ten families, and these are their names: Buzar, Parzunac, Balgar, Elicanum, Ragbib, Tarki, Bid, Zebuc, Ongal and Tilmaz; all these spread and rested in the north and built themselves cities. 11 And they called their cities after their own names, those are they who abide by the rivers Hithlah and Italac unto this day. 12 But the families of Angoli, Balgar and Parzunac, they dwell by the great river Dubnee; and the names of their cities are also according to their own names.
    13 And the children of Javan are the Javanim who dwell in the land of Makdonia, and the children of Medaiare are the Orelum that dwell in the land of Curson, and the children of Tubal are those that dwell in the land of Tuskanah by the river Pashiah.
    14 And the children of Meshech are the Shibashni and the children of Tiras are Rushash, Cushni, and Ongolis; all these went and built themselves cities; those are the cities that are situate by the sea Jabus by the river Cura, which empties itself in the river Tragan.
    15 And the children of Elishah are the Almanim, and they also went and built themselves cities; those are the cities situate between the mountains of Job and Shibathmo; and of them were the people of Lumbardi who dwell opposite the mountains of Job and Shibathmo, and they conquered the land of Italia and remained there unto this day.
    16 And the children of Chittim are the Romim who dwell in the valley of Canopia by the river Tibreu.
    17 And the children of Dudonim are those who dwell in the cities of the sea Gihon, in the land of Bordna."
    ...
    "And during his reign he [Zepho] brought forth an army, and he went and fought against the inhabitants of Britannia and Kernania, the children of Elisha son of Javan, and he prevailed over them and made them tributary. 30 He then heard that Edom had revolted from under the hand of Chittim, and Latinus went to them and smote them and subdued them, and placed them under the hand of the children of Chittim, and Edom became one kingdom with the children of Chittim all the days."
    Book of Jasher 90

    "Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time therefore this befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews."
    Josephus: The Complete Works - Christian Classics Ethereal Library

    Matthew 16:6 Then Jesus said unto them, "Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees."
    Matthew 7:16 "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

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    The Gauls and the Cymry aren't even from the same family of Japheth... which explains this:

    "By the Rev. Peter Roberts, another Welsh scholar, it is said, "The learned and the acute Whitaker has in my opinion fully proved, that the names Celtae, Galatee, and Gauls belong to the Gael. But if these names belong to the Gael, they most certainly cannot, with any propriety, belong to the Cymry. And since the languages of the Cymry and Gael are perfectly distinct, they must be distinct nations; and if the distinction had been cautiously attended to, much confusion both in history and etymology would have been avoided."
    "Dr. O'Connor, Sir W. Betham, Professor Forbes, and others, accomplished Gaelic and Erse scholars, have given similar testimony, that "the grammatical construction of the Gaelic and the Welsh languages, and the declension of words are radically diflferent, as different in their syntactic construction as two languages can be; and that the most intimate knowledge of the Gaelic would not enable a person to master a verse in the Bible in Welsh."
    "Dr. Perry, late Bishop of Dromore, was, in modem times, [32] among the earliest who thought these languages were not derived from one common Keltic stock. The Lord's Prayer in the Gaelic and Welsh, and in the dialects of the two, may be seen in Bohn's edition of "Mallet's Northern Antiquities."-- Beal, Britain and the Gael
     
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    There is no "Assyrian Antichrist" per se. There is only the title Assyrian per Micah 5:5. You are confusing the traditions of men with Scripture. At the time of the "Assyrian", "the remnant of Jacob will be among many peoples like dew from the LORD" (Micah 5:8), and they will be like "a lion among flocks of sheep" (Micah 5:8). "I will execute vengeance in anger, and wrath on the nations which have not obeyed" (Micah 5:15).
     
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    Run that word-search again. That Assyrian is doing things that never happened the first time he came to Israel... even apart from the book of Jasher.

    Jasher is interesting in the same way that Josephus is interesting. The secret societies aren't holding secrets that even belong to them. The reasons for what they are hiding is the fascinating part. Why would they not want the whole world to know that French Gael-Gomer is Irish? Why keep from us the fact that Caledonian Britain was settled by the same people who were called Germans by the Romans? Divide and conquer? If we had known that we were related to German Europe, would we have fought on the side of the Communist takeover last seen in Bolshevik Russia?

    Yeah, yeah, I know all about the some guys who actually did bad stuff in WWII... including the manufacture of things that never happened to give the allies some sort of excuse for their own genocidal activities.

    If Britons had known that our blood-brothers were firestormed into puddles on the streets of Dresden... innocent people who had nothing at all to do with either the concentration camps during the war, or the allied concentration camps after the war... would we have felt at least SOMEthing? And how would we feel if we'd known that the napalm and Hiroshima Nagasaki events were the tests of evil scientists? Would we have let them brainwash our sons and daughters to use the same tools in Iraq? People are people, and cold-blooded murder is cold-blooded murder. Not every British or American is OK with the attrocities that happen in our name, but it's a sure bet that we will all be made to pay, yet the world will hate the woman.

    The truth can stand on its own. But lies need legislation to prop them up.
     
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