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The allure of Trump

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Draka, Oct 22, 2015.

  1. Lyndon

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    Since less than 1% of American Muslim women wear Burqas, that makes your claim sound especially bogus!!
     
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    I really have little interest in convincing any of you . . . ta ta!
     
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  3. Revoltingest

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    Demagoguery is a popular tool because it's effective.
    But it's easier & more satisfying to see it in the enemy.
     
  4. Revoltingest

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    It's possible that the burqa wearers would be more fundie & more concentrated in his area.
    But I'm still skeptical.
     
  5. lewisnotmiller

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    *chuckles*

    I agree, but sitting from where I am (which is admittedly a hemisphere away) he looks pretty darn demagogue-ish to me. If it helps, I can insult Hillary too. I'd just use a slightly different flavour of insult.
     
  6. Revoltingest

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    They use the same tools, but with different styles.
    She's certainly more polished, but people are used to that.
    His candor is risky, but novel.
     
  7. Lyndon

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    Yeah, his "candor" is risky, like get us into WW3 risky!!
     
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    I think she's full of crap, but it's a controlled (too controlled) messaging aimed at not taking risks.
    I think he's full of crap, but his is a deliberate appeal to emotion without granting his audience the credit of having intelligence.

    I wouldn't vote for either of them. If I was forced to vote for one, it would be Hillary, since I think her brand of politics will produce predictable results. That's not a good thing...unless the alternative is a divisive figure who I think would produce extremely negative outcomes for both the US, and the rest of the world.
     
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  9. Revoltingest

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    That's pretty much my sentiment too.
     
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    Quick sidenote...I'm skeptical that his candor is always actual candor. Hence my accusation of demagoguery.
     
  11. Revoltingest

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    Seems reasonable.
     
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  12. lewisnotmiller

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    *squints suspiciously*

    You're not going to try and convert me to libertarianism at this point? Hmmm...I feel...err...rejected.
    ;)
     
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    Does anyone else see the similarities of ignorant voters wanting Trump and ignorant voters wanting Obama? Both are grossly unqualified to be President, both have an uninformed following. Just saying..............
     
  14. Lyndon

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    Not at all, Obama, love him or hate him, is at least intelligent. And wasn't elected for saying stupid things, quite the opposite.
     
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    Got to disagree with you Lyndon, Both are educated idiots. Step back and look at the situation, Obama managed to be elected two times, Trump managed to become a Billionaire and the leading Republican candidate. Get beyond your prejudices and you will see the similarities. The biggest being how uninformed both their followings are. It's about the people who support them not the men they support.
     
  16. Revoltingest

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    I could never convert another.
    One must feel the calling.
     
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  17. Reverend Rick

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    Politics suck! Both parties are bought and paid for. We elect our representatives based on who promises to give the voters the most stuff. The average voter cannot even tell you who the Speaker of the house is or who is the Secretary of State. No way they know who the Attorney General is but they are allowed to vote without an ID. Hell, you can't buy a pack of cigarettes without an ID for Gods sake
     
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    Think about it, do you want someone voting who can't even manage to provide an ID? Of course you do if you think they will vote YOUR WAY.
     
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    Well it seems with your reasoning that Hillary is just as apt to. Does she not want a "no-fly" zone within certain parts of Syria. If a no-fly zone is enacted that means any aircraft not aligned with a US back coalition would be subject to being fired upon if they entered this area. Which would be the Russian coalition (Russia, Iran, Syria)....(let's leave the French and Russian joint operations out of the discussion for the purpose of this discussion) Thus if a US aircraft brought down a Russian aircraft or a Russian aircraft or surface-to-air missile (which are now deployed in Syria) brought down a US aircraft it would be an act of war.
     
  20. Revoltingest

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    Found in the news today.....
    http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...astors-expected-to-endorse-donald-trump/?_r=0
     
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