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The accidental making of a president.

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The reality, the film contends, is that by the early 1990s, The Trump Organization was facing over $3 billion of debt and its three Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt; in the following years leading to The Apprentice, Trump “was a man in trouble.

'What We Did Was a Scam': The Apprentice Creators Give Behind the Scenes Reveal of Trump's Show
What I suspect is that the most damaging evidence against Trump may not be "collusion" but may well be his financial undertakings that might involve connections with Putin through money-laundering accounts as he was unable to secure large loans in the west. IOW, Trump has long been known as a "con-man", and what a more enticing con-man for a source for shady money than Putin?

"Golden showers" anyone?
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
What I suspect is that the most damaging evidence against Trump may not be "collusion" but may well be his financial undertakings that might involve connections with Putin through money-laundering accounts as he was unable to secure large loans in the west.

I would love to see Congress pass a bill requiring all presidential candidates furnish their tax info before 2020. I admit an impossible task considering it would take a 2/3 majority to override Trumps veto.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
The reality, the film contends, is that by the early 1990s, The Trump Organization was facing over $3 billion of debt and its three Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt; in the following years leading to The Apprentice, Trump “was a man in trouble.

'What We Did Was a Scam': The Apprentice Creators Give Behind the Scenes Reveal of Trump's Show
So, we are supposed to suddenly believe people who duped us all before, when it was to their extreme benefit to do so. Yep, that makes a lot of sense. I wonder what new show they have waiting in the wings? What new fantasy do they have up their sleeves? It's not like the shows producers are as craven and corrupt as Trump! Heaven's, no!
 
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tytlyf

Not Religious
Donald has been a horrendous businessperson. That bad ones have to resort to bullying, lying, conning, etc to try to make a buck.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
So, we are supposed to suddenly believe people who duped us all before, when it was to their extreme benefit to do so. Yep, that makes a lot of sense. I wonder what new show they have waiting in the wings? What new fantasy do they have up their sleeves? It's not like the shows producers are as craven and corrupt as Trump! Heaven's, no!
So you think Donald was a respectable businessperson? Based on what?

I'd prefer Elon Musk, Richard Branson, Jeff Bezos, etc. Big difference between the billionaires on the right versus on the left.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Not uncommon, that's what a so-called 'reality show' is, no?
In my view, that makes them more craven and corrupt than Trump himself and they actually have the chutzpah to admit that they foisted this onto the American people and didn't think to say nary a peep up to this point in time? I see this as an attempt for them to salvage what little credibility they have left and I bet they get away with it too because people have become so incredibly gullible.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Do try to comprehend what you are reading.
Obviously you do think he's a respectable businessperson. Which is part of the reason you voted for him. Cause he's a 'billionaire' and must know what he's doing to acquire such wealth!

So far from the truth.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
All this complaining about Trump, yet he remains in the White House. Perhaps there is more wrong with the electors than the elected?
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
All this complaining about Trump, yet he remains in the White House. Perhaps there is more wrong with the electors than the elected?
The damage is done in congress, not the presidency. Donald being elected isn't his fault, it's the voters.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
No, your side allowed the party to rig the primaries for a loser.
If you'd successfully fought against the corruption, Bernie
might be Prez now.
My side? What do I have to do with this? Did Canada interfere with the Democratic primary? Do you think I did?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
My side? What do I have to do with this? Did Canada interfere with the Democratic primary? Do you think I did?
You sided with Hillary.
The fact that you're a ferriner is irrelevant.
Many of your ilk weigh in to influence our elections.
At least I have the decency to stay out of yours.
(I only offered approval for Robt Ford after he died.)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Fine, their is a lot of blame to go around, (for the record I was a Bernie supporter in the primaries, from the sidelines)
Your silence on Democrat Party corruption,
keeping Bernie out of play, was deafening.
(I know...I know...it's an over-used cliche.)
But you also must accept your share of the blame. You voted for Trump.
You & yours presented me with a choice.....
Call it "dumb & dumber" or "the lesser of 2 evils",
I voted for the better of 2 options.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Your silence on Democrat Party corruption,
keeping Bernie out of play, was deafening.
(I know...I know...it's an over-used cliche.)

You & yours presented me with a choice.....
Call it "dumb & dumber" or "the lesser of 2 evils",
I voted for the better of 2 options.
Do I need to go search my posts from years back to prove how critical I was of the way the Democratic primaries were conducted? I was extremely critical of them at the time, and of super delegates, and of how the media reported all this. I WAS NOT SILENT!

You just don’t listen. Or take responsibility for your actions.
 
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