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The 3 Earth Ages

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Its a phony baloney doctrine.

You only show your lack of understanding
Spiritual discernment and what it is to spiritual discern things that are being said.

Explain what it means to have Spiritual discernment..
1 Corinthians 2:14---"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"

You see.the first thing is..a person would to have knowledge of what it means to have Spiritual discernment...
If not..then all it will be is foolishness to you.. neither can you know them..
Because there are alot of things being said that takes Spiritual discernment to understand what is actually being said.

Let's see if you can Spiritual discern what Jesus Christ is saying in the Spiritual realm here.
Mark 13:11---"But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit"

Can you spiritual discern what Jesus Christ is saying here.
What's that ( hour) Jesus Christ is talking about. When does that hour take place.
Of a matter of fact when does all that take place,
Jesus Christ tells in all of that
When it takes place. What hour it takes place.
Who this ones this pertains to..
Now to understand this..it takes spiritual discernment to understand what Jesus Christ is actually speaking about.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
You only show your lack of understanding
Spiritual discernment and what it is to spiritual discern things that are being said.

Explain what it means to have Spiritual discernment..
1 Corinthians 2:14---"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"

You see.the first thing is..a person would to have knowledge of what it means to have Spiritual discernment...
If not..then all it will be is foolishness to you.. neither can you know them..
Because there are alot of things being said that takes Spiritual discernment to understand what is actually being said.

Let's see if you can Spiritual discern what Jesus Christ is saying in the Spiritual realm here.
Mark 13:11---"But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit"

Can you spiritual discern what Jesus Christ is saying here.
What's that ( hour) Jesus Christ is talking about. When does that hour take place.
Of a matter of fact when does all that take place,
Jesus Christ tells in all of that
When it takes place. What hour it takes place.
Who this ones this pertains to..
Now to understand this..it takes spiritual discernment to understand what Jesus Christ is actually speaking about.

Spiritually discerned is really a cop out and/or the language of politics. If the scripture doesn't make sense, its because the reader doesn't have some secret, special gift.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Spiritually discerned is really a cop out and/or the language of politics. If the scripture doesn't make sense, its because the reader doesn't have some secret, special gift.

Nope not at all..
If the reader of the bible/ scriptures has no spiritual discernment.then they have no clue or idea what the Spirit of God is actually saying.
Your right about that one. It is special gift given by God when reading his word in the Bible/scriptures having that special gift to read to understand having the wisdom and knowledge in knowing what the Spirit of God is Actually saying in his word the
bible/scriptures.
This what prompted disciple Paul to write
1 Corinthians 2 14--"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"

You see the natural man has no clue or idea what spiritual discernment is.
Because as you just said yourself in your above statement
( Spiritually discerned is really a cop out and/or the language of politics. If the scripture doesn't make sense, its because the reader doesn't have some secret, special gift) .
Things like what you said above is why it's written "14--"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"
All you been taught to do is read what is in a book or written down on paper..

But God's words has two aspects to it.
One is you read what is written down.

The second is not only to read what is written down..but also to decipher look into the spiritual realm and see. what the Spirit of God. is also saying in what your reading.

You see. Spiritual discernment to you is
foolishness..
.and as it is written"14--"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" 1 Corinthians 2:14.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Nope not at all..
If the reader of the bible/ scriptures has no spiritual discernment.then they have no clue or idea what the Spirit of God is actually saying.
Your right about that one. It is special gift given by God when reading his word in the Bible/scriptures having that special gift to read to understand having the wisdom and knowledge in knowing what the Spirit of God is Actually saying in his word the
bible/scriptures.
This what prompted disciple Paul to write
1 Corinthians 2 14--"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"

You see the natural man has no clue or idea what spiritual discernment is.
Because as you just said yourself in your above statement
( Spiritually discerned is really a cop out and/or the language of politics. If the scripture doesn't make sense, its because the reader doesn't have some secret, special gift) .
Things like what you said above is why it's written "14--"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"
All you been taught to do is read what is in a book or written down on paper..

But God's words has two aspects to it.
One is you read what is written down.

The second is not only to read what is written down..but also to decipher look into the spiritual realm and see. what the Spirit of God. is also saying in what your reading.

Wonder what he meant by natural man..

In Paul's day there was no Bible and very few people could read anyway.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Who Is the "Natural" Man in 1 Corinthians 2:14? : Christian ...
www.christiancourier.com/articles/643-who-is-the...
In conclusion, then, we must insist that the key to understanding the “natural man,” as discussed by Paul, is to be found in viewing this passage in the light of the broader context of the early portion of his epistle.The Calvinistic assertion with reference to this text reflects both a misunderstanding of the local context, and the general scriptural teaching relative to the work of the Holy Spirit.

Excerpt:

Finally, the Calvinist view of this context makes God morally culpable.For instance, note this declaration from A.T. Robertson.This Baptist scholar argued that the “mind of the flesh” does not possess ability “to receive the things of the Spirit untouched by the Spirit.

Certainly the initiative comes from God whose Holy Spirit makes it possible for us to accept the things of the Spirit of God” (Word Pictures in the New Testament, Nashville: Broadman, 1931, IV, p. 89).

If this position is true, whose fault is it if the “unregenerate” man never accesses the “things of God”?

In conclusion, then, we must insist that the key to understanding the “natural man,” as discussed by Paul, is to be found in viewing this passage in the light of the broader context of the early portion of his epistle.

The Calvinistic assertion with reference to this text reflects both a misunderstanding of the local context, and the general scriptural teaching relative to the work of the Holy Spirit.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Wonder what he meant by natural man..

In Paul's day there was no Bible and very few people could read anyway.

the natural man is to say it respectfully.
is you.the natural man is anyone who has no knowledge or understanding or wisdom of spiritual things in the spiritual realm

You see we live in natural world.
the spiritual realm is in different realm world that our eyes can not see into.
It's like the wind. You can feel it around you..but you can not see the wind..all because it's in a different realm than we are.
But if it were possible to step over into the realm where the wind is. Then we could see the wind to what it actually looks like.
 
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Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Who Is the "Natural" Man in 1 Corinthians 2:14? : Christian ...
www.christiancourier.com/articles/643-who-is-the...
In conclusion, then, we must insist that the key to understanding the “natural man,” as discussed by Paul, is to be found in viewing this passage in the light of the broader context of the early portion of his epistle.The Calvinistic assertion with reference to this text reflects both a misunderstanding of the local context, and the general scriptural teaching relative to the work of the Holy Spirit.

Excerpt:

Finally, the Calvinist view of this context makes God morally culpable.For instance, note this declaration from A.T. Robertson.This Baptist scholar argued that the “mind of the flesh” does not possess ability “to receive the things of the Spirit untouched by the Spirit.

Certainly the initiative comes from God whose Holy Spirit makes it possible for us to accept the things of the Spirit of God” (Word Pictures in the New Testament, Nashville: Broadman, 1931, IV, p. 89).

If this position is true, whose fault is it if the “unregenerate” man never accesses the “things of God”?

In conclusion, then, we must insist that the key to understanding the “natural man,” as discussed by Paul, is to be found in viewing this passage in the light of the broader context of the early portion of his epistle.

The Calvinistic assertion with reference to this text reflects both a misunderstanding of the local context, and the general scriptural teaching relative to the work of the Holy Spirit.


You really believe that I care what those religions has to say. Respectfully I don't care.

I only go by what my God and Jesus Christ will say in their word.

The natural man. Being all people in the world..
The only difference is. Being able to have the understanding. knowledge.wisdom.
To what the Spirit of God is saying in the spiritual realm.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
the natural man is to say it respectfully.
is you.the natural man is anyone who has no knowledge or understanding or wisdom of spiritual things in the spiritual realm

You see we live in natural world.
the spiritual realm is in different realm world that our eyes can not see into.
It's like the wind. You can feel it around you..but you can not see the wind..all because it's in a different realm than we are.
But if it were possible to step over into the realm where the wind is. Then we could see the wind to what it actually looks like.

Rousseau wrote quite a lot about the inherent goodness of natural man. Paul advised people not to marry because the end of times were imminent.
 
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