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Featured That Whole Homosexual--Sin Thing

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Skwim, May 14, 2019.

  1. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

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    Do like those scantily clad women. Deed I do. :D

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    I'm not christian, but I would stand up for your right to believe and practice as you wish, even if I don't agree with it.
    I'm not a female, but I still support their rights, equality, etc.

    Those who genuinely love liberty understand this.
     
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  3. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    Disagree entirely. Parse a little more closely: saying "Moses is a myth" is simply denying the statement "Moses is real, or Moses existed in fact." That is the positive claim that cries out for some sort of evidence.

    Archaeology cannot confirm his existence. There is nothing in any record in Egypt of any of the events described as being centered around Moses. There is no trace of archaeological evidence in Egypt, in the Sinai, or in Israel for his existence. Most interesting of all, however, is that despite his supposed fame, no source at all in any writings mentions him until he emerges in texts associated with the Babylonian exile. And that's actually a pretty telling point.
     
  4. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    What rubbish! Far more men leave their wives for OTHER WOMEN than they do for another guy. And far more women leave their husbands for another man they do for another chick.[/QUOTE]
     
  5. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    The continuation of humans, in a world with 7+ billion of them, is a bigger moral disaster than homosex.

    Way bigger.
    Way.

    I understand that the issues ethically primitive people faced thousands of years ago were different from the ones that people face in 2019.
    But that means that what Moses claimed God said doesn't have any meaning now, for me or any other people I share the world with. People who claim that their opinions match God's need to come up with something more definitive than their opinions about the Bible. Because I don't trust the fallible humans who decided what should be Biblical and what shouldn't any more than I trust you.
    Which isn't much. Because I know that you're wrong about this game that are important to me.
    Tom
     
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  6. Sky Rivers

    Sky Rivers Active Member

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    I don’t support a law against divorce. Faith shouldn’t be legislated by the state today. I agree with you though, divorce is harmful to families.
     
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    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Why would I find your opinion that God speaks in the Bible credible?
    The Bible is often wrong.
    Tom
     
  8. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    That's the beauty of it. You don't have to!

    God bless.
     
  9. Skwim

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    But so is god. He even admits it. ;)

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  10. Subduction Zone

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    Did you not notice that Jesus separated himself from God in that verse? If anything that is a verse where Jesus says that he is not God.
     
  11. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    :rolleyes: That the best you can come up with?

    I'll make this real simple for ya.

    John 10:30

    30 I and my Father are one.
     
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    “All homosexuals want to do is be left alone to live out their lives in peace the best they can?” True for some, not all. Certainly not true for pride walkers and even less true for social justice warriors who also happen to be LGBT+

    Sex outside marriage is a temptation. Heterosexuality is nature.

    Unnatural, period. To the world? Natural.

    It’s not an answer I’d give in science class. This isn’t science class.

    Sex is part of the system we live in and the pleasure of it is also. Abuse of sex for pleasure alone by unmarried people? That’s sin.

    It’s considered to be perversion because it’s perversion. That some choose to recognize this? That certainly doesn’t make them “up-tight”, “sex-fearing”, or “mean-spirited”. That’s not to say that some aren’t these things because some are. However, it’s unlikely because they FEAR sex. It’s more likely they FEAR God and don’t yet know how to live in the Spirit.

    That comment says much of you.

    ...and that comment says even more.
     
  13. Subduction Zone

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    The best you can do is find a verse where Jesus says that God agrees with him? Oh my.
     
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    True. However, it doesn’t negate my point, since it wasn’t about percentages.
     
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    The problem with forcing gay men to act straight since "it is a sin" is that causes them to leave marriages where they cannot love. Wouldn't it be better for them to marry the man that that person loves instead of settling for a woman that he cannot?
     
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    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    You missed the point. It may be detrimental in ways we don't understand, like chocolate is detrimental to a dog in ways it can't understand.
     
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    I was paraphrasing. The only word I added was disgusting - am I wrong to assume that's your position?
     
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    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    That's where the free will argument comes into play. God loves us enough he allows us the freedom to choose. One could argue that a loving God wouldn't allow us harmful choices, but if that were the case, I'm sure people would just as vehemently argue that a loving God would allow the freedom of choice.
     
  19. Sky Rivers

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    No, better he be single or seek the Lord to help him fight temptation.
     
  20. Sky Rivers

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    Your addition of “disgusting” doesn’t reflect my feelings on homosexuality or on homosexual men.
     
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