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Texas begins jailing border crossers on trespassing charges

Stevicus

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Texas begins jailing border crossers on trespassing charges - ABC News (go.com)

I heard they were going to start doing this, arresting migrants for whatever minor offense they can find.

AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas is beginning to arrest migrants on trespassing charges along the U.S.-Mexico border as part of Republican Gov. Greg Abbott's actions that he says are needed to slow the number of border crossings, jailing at least 10 people so far with more on the way, authorities said Thursday.

The arrests put in motion plans that Abbott first announced in June, when he also said that Texas would continue building former President Donald Trump's border wall and called on other governors to deploy law enforcement and National Guard members to the southern border.

They're holding them in an empty state prison. A lot of the border counties are small with limited resources, so their jails are not big enough.

The detainees are being held at what had been an empty state prison in Dilley, Texas, about 100 miles (160.93 kilometers) north of the border city of Laredo, said Robert Hurst, a spokesman for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. He said the converted facility will be able to hold more than 950 people.

All of those arrested so far have been single adult men, according to Val Verde County Attorney David Martinez, who said he was advised last week that the number of migrant arrests could increase to as many as 100 or 200 per day. Such large numbers, he said, “would overwhelm not only my office, but our entire system pretty quickly."

Most land along the southern Texas border is private, but Martinez said his understanding was that state troopers would not arrest family units. Last week, U.S. officials reported that they had encountered 55,805 members of families with children in June, which was up 25% from the previous month. That figure still remains far below the high of 88,587 in May 2019.

“If John Doe is caught on my property and he has his wife and his children with him, chances are he’s not going to be arrested," Martinez said. “That's what's been represented to me.”

A spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety did not immediately return a message Thursday.

Val Verde County, which has around 50,000 residents, has become the backdrop of Abbott's criticism of President Joe Biden over the border as the two-term governor, who is up for reelection in 2022, has sought to take Trump's mantle on immigration. He returned to the county last weekend along with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other officials, including Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody, who tweeted this week that she had tested positive for COVID-19.


“The state jail commission has worked out a way to jail far more people that are currently being jailed," Abbott said during his visit on Saturday.

But the largest Texas counties along the southern border, where crossings are typically the highest, have rejected Abbott's offer to heighten enforcement and accept disaster declarations, which governors typically only grant during events like hurricanes or wildfire.

Migrants arrested by state troopers for trespassing first began showing up to the former prison on Tuesday. Prison officials said in a statement said that preparations for the facility included temporary air conditioning — which many Texas prisons don't have in living areas — and training and licensing jailers.

Since first announcing earlier this summer that Texas would begin charging migrants with state crimes, Abbott has said law enforcement would not be involved in “catch and release” and said those arrested would spend time behind bars. But Martinez said he would handle the cases same as usually does, which typically means offering time served.

“My office is working really hard to try to minimize the amount of time that they have to sit in that jail," he said.

They said they're not arresting family units, only single adult men.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
When do you think they will start shooting at migrants? I give it a decade, tops.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Being an illegal immigrant is a crime. Trespassing is a crime. That's how borders work.
Where are these people trespassing on other people's property? Isn't most of the border just public land?
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Trespassing on another person's country.
That may be true for countries that are literally one person's property, such as Liechtenstein, Monaco, Sealand, or that weird farm in Australia. But as far as I know, the US is no person's private property.

There are hundreds of farms and personal properties right up against the border.
Do we have any proof at all that the people imprisoned have been factually violating specific people's property rights?
 

Rival

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That may be true for countries that are literally one person's property, such as Liechtenstein, Monaco, Sealand, or that weird farm in Australia. But as far as I know, the US is no person's private property.
Stop this charade.

You know as well as anyone that you cannot just enter another country without a passport and papers and stay there. I am not having this discussion with you.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Stop this charade.

You know as well as anyone that you cannot just enter another country without a passport and papers and stay there.
And yet, your country was founded by just such people. Ironic how that works, isn't it? ;)

Also, freedom of movement is a basic human right.
It is passports and papers who are the charade here, an attempt by authoritarians to control, harass, divide and oppress others without any sort of sensible reason or even a halfway consistent justification. There is no reason to imprison these people, except for the fact that agents of the state are free to do so and don't have to fear any consequences.

I am not having this discussion with you.
Nobody forces you to respond to me, least of all myself.
If you don't feel like talking to me, then just don't.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Being an illegal immigrant is a crime. Trespassing is a crime. That's how borders work.
The state troopers don't have the authority/jurisdiction to handle migrant cases. It's actually not illegal to cross the border without a visa (you have to to get asylum). Hence why they're using trespassing charges to arrest who they assume will be forever undocumented.
But trespassing isn't a jailable offense (especially without trial) and requires complaint from the property owners. Plus Texas is in a massive power crisis which makes people worry about housing in abandoned prisons. Are they going to pay for it through tax dollars without a vote or are they just going to let heat exhaustion and illness spread unchecked? Either way, a lot of border counties are against this.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
Legal immigrants are welcome, illegal aliens are not. Process their mugshot and fingerprints, and send them back. All of them. Repeat offenders can spend some time in jail or prison.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

Heyo

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Being an illegal immigrant is a crime. Trespassing is a crime. That's how borders work.
Should work. The US has a special relationship with borders and immigrants. There is the history of the US as an immigration country (and that is still the reputation the US has in Latin America). Then there are the farmers who rely on the cheap labour and some liberals who don't mind breaking or bending the law (instead of changing the law, i.e. the immigration politics).
And as little as they respect their own borders and laws, as little do they respect other borders. Invading or operating all over the world is their second nature. So, by the Golden Rule, crossing the border isn't wrong as long as you don't get caught.
 
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