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Testimony of former Witch

Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by Sonic247, Jun 18, 2008.

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  1. Sonic247

    Sonic247 New Member

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  2. Ringer

    Ringer Jar of Clay

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    Pretty interesting story. I believe that as Americans we are pretty ignorant of the spiritual realm and have a tendancy to pass off these stories as fantasy that originates with those in depraved, third-world countries that cannot distinguish between what is and is not reality. I have a friend who grew up in the Venezuelan jungle and whose parents are missionaries to the Yanomamo tribe down there. He has told us many stories of spiritual warfare that the tribe would have with rival tribes. I believe there is a book that deals with one of the shaman in the tribe and what life was like before and after his family's missionary work. You can check out some general information at the Amazon site:

    Amazon.com: Spirit of the Rainforest: A Yanomamo Shaman's Story: Mark Andrew Ritchie: Books
     
  3. Sonic247

    Sonic247 New Member

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    I read the excerpt, it kind of leaves you hanging. I guess that's the point, they want you to buy the book. I agree with you though. People who have been in the underdeveloped regions of the world ussually seem to know more of the reality of the spiritual world. Here is an overview someone wrote of it- Spirit of the Rainforest Summary and Critique
     
  4. gnomon

    gnomon Well-Known Member

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    What is the correlation between being underdeveloped and possessing an increased knowledge of the spiritual realm?
     
  5. Halcyon

    Halcyon Lord of the Badgers

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    The less scientific understanding you have, the more you rely on superstition and magic to help explain the happenings around you.
     
  6. gnomon

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    That would have been my first guess but I don't think that's what most people who believe in the spiritual realm accept.:)
     
  7. Ringer

    Ringer Jar of Clay

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    I'm not sure. Maybe they see some of these things for what they really are an not jaded by a culture that relies on therapy and medication. Or possibly, they rely on spirits for their everyday survival, thus opening a potential Pandora's Box. Something those in developed countries would not be so inclined to do.
     
  8. Halcyon

    Halcyon Lord of the Badgers

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    Yeah, but what you gonna do?
     
  9. tomspug

    tomspug Absorbant

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    Some people allow themselves to not be blind to the limitations of the human mind.
     
  10. gnomon

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    Why is someone who watches TV, drives a car, holds a career and goes to say...a Christian church...less likely to be in touch with the spiritual realm than an individual who lives in a hut in the jungle, has never seen an electrical product and still hunts for their food.
     
  11. Halcyon

    Halcyon Lord of the Badgers

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    Heh, I'm well aware of the limitations of the human brain. I just don't see those limitations as granting us the power to commune with spirits.

    Drugs do help with that though, which is what a lot of these "underdeveloped" shamans use to "know the reality of the spiritual world."
     
  12. blackout

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    Do you all really believe a four year old could read and remember the word PSYCHIC?
    (Spelled out letter by letter all broken up , none the less?!?) :sarcastic

    I don't know. I didn't even bother to read the rest.
     
  13. Mike182

    Mike182 Flaming Queer

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    meh, i've read testimonies like this before. while i have doubt that it is even true, i just see this as proselytizing. "this person got messed up by witchcraft, but fixed through Christianity!". it's nothing but a cheap shot really.
     
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    Sunstone De Diablo Del Fora Staff Member Premium Member

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    Lots of people testify to the converse too. They say Christianity messed them up but they found something much better and healthier for them in Wicca.
     
  15. Mike182

    Mike182 Flaming Queer

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    that is true, i myself have posted much to that effect in the past here, but most Pagans or variations there of only talk about that when asked, they don't jump out of nowhere with an impromptu thread and post it in people's faces. that's the difference between discussing religious conversions and the reasons/motives behind such conversions, and proselytizing for your religion. this thread is the latter.
     
  16. Sunstone

    Sunstone De Diablo Del Fora Staff Member Premium Member

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    I agree, Mike, I think this thread amounts to proselytizing.
     
  17. Father Heathen

    Father Heathen Well-Known Member

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    It's like arguing Coke Vs. Pepsi. In the end, it's still soda.

    Have some nice herbal tea instead.
     
  18. Kcnorwood

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    I agree this sounds more like a Witch bashing thread if nothing else.....:rolleyes:
     
  19. blackout

    blackout Violet.

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    Substitute "Magic" for "Wicca",
    and you have described me exactly.

    People see what they see,
    experience what they experience,
    but it all proves nothing as others are concerned,
    because every person is completely different. :rainbow1:
     
  20. Sonic247

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    I really don't know. It just seems to work out that way. There could be other factors also, like peoples religious practices that open people up to that kind of stuff. In nations like America people aren't looking for spiritual things as much, but material things. Did you ever notice that when you get into something you see it where you never noticed it before. When I started playing guitar I noticed guitar parts in commercials that I wouldn't before. Of course I always noticed them in songs but they began to stand out more. If I walk through a flea market I will probably notice any guitars, and I imagine a mechanic would notice if there were tools for sale. So in short maybe we notice only material things because that's all that's on our minds.
     
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