I used to believe I talked with God
But now I know that was just an illness
Well, you're not alone.
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Talking With God
- Thread starter Nakosis
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Well, you're not alone.
Well, through others? These others must have some kind of connection then don't they?
leov
Well-Known Member
I have proof (for myself), so, I do not think that was God, but spiritual world is vast , diverse and real.
Having been convinced to have a "connection" with God, I can understand how anyone might be convinced of such a connection. There is a lot of current science behind how the unconscious mind operates not known in ancient times. Without this information, there is not a lot of reason to question a dream/vision an experience of having a connection to the all-mighty.
So I suspect these prophets were sincere in their beliefs as well but that doesn't mean they were right.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
so....I look to the teachings of my Inspiration
the parables of the Carpenter
and the outstanding manner He dealt with His followers and the people at hand
whether He had a personal mind to mind with God
is between Him and God
for now.....it's up to me to decide the manner and method
of MY mind and heart
for example.....Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
is a manner and a method
it is also fair warning
It is hard to say with any certainty where we would be without the Torah/Bible/Quran. I learn to read from a an encyclopedia set of bible stories. I remember some but my unconscious mind, I am told remembers it all. Hard to know what one's unconscious mind is doing with all that information.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
yeah...I grew up reading the World Book version encyclopedia
almost the whole darn thing
and so......school was a breeze
as for the bible....I lean to king James
the old English....from whence comest thou
as for the foundation of our minds
I believe our dreams are the clue
some of my visions are rather.....sharp
Thief
Rogue Theologian
in other threads.....I mention a car accident
when I was sooooo much younger
usually I skip over the details moments before the impact
and for now....let me just say
I FELT it coming
I looked for the seat belt (it was on the floorboard behind the seat)
I locked my door
I put my back to the door
and then started sliding down in the seat
the driver wanted to know if I felt alright
yeah sure
someone ran a stop sign in front of us
no way to see that coming
and no one hit the brakes
60 to 0 is believed to be a sure kill
I walked away
I do have one outstanding scar
one dead tooth
but that impact was enough to have crushed my face
broken my skull
my neck
taken my head OFF of my shoulders
and of course.....none of that happened
I did not feel pain for an hour
kinda weird putting your fingers into busted flesh and say to yourself
that should hurt like HELL
angel at my shoulder?...….whispering what to do
didn't hear it
but I did what I did...…......and lived for having done so
when I was sooooo much younger
usually I skip over the details moments before the impact
and for now....let me just say
I FELT it coming
I looked for the seat belt (it was on the floorboard behind the seat)
I locked my door
I put my back to the door
and then started sliding down in the seat
the driver wanted to know if I felt alright
yeah sure
someone ran a stop sign in front of us
no way to see that coming
and no one hit the brakes
60 to 0 is believed to be a sure kill
I walked away
I do have one outstanding scar
one dead tooth
but that impact was enough to have crushed my face
broken my skull
my neck
taken my head OFF of my shoulders
and of course.....none of that happened
I did not feel pain for an hour
kinda weird putting your fingers into busted flesh and say to yourself
that should hurt like HELL
angel at my shoulder?...….whispering what to do
didn't hear it
but I did what I did...…......and lived for having done so
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe God speaks to me in many ways and sometimes that is a conversation. Sometimes it is just a timely word. Sometimes it is lengthy teaching. In addition God speaks through my words and since I hear them also, you could say I hear Him that way also. Sometimes God will communicate through visions and signs and dreams. Also there is a word for it but God will quicken a Biblical word.
i believe if you truly can hear from God you can be judgmental but if not your judgment will be flawed.
I believe that is necessary. If one does not believe God speaks then one will not listen. We learn that God speaks from the Bible. That was the way it was in Nazareth. Jesus was just a carpenter to them, so not many bothered to go to Him for healing.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe it is difficult to say. Supposedly American Indians talked to God without any known source but is it the one true God they talked to or an imaginary one?
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe the Bahai's don't have any prophets of their own.
I believed I had a message from God. It was a good message. A message of hope and love and certainty. However it was a contradiction to what many claimed was the true message of God and I thought, why should anyone believe me over all these others who also claim to know "God's will"? They claim what God wants and how God wants us to act. You'd think those who claim to know God's will would be a little more consistent in their message.
Many have claimed and do claim to be the second coming. Some choose to believe them as well, many do not. How will you/do you choose? How much certainty will you have in your choice.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe a great many think they hear from God when they don't. The Bible tells us to test every spirit. I believe you can't assume you are right or that the others are right. Usually if someone disagrees I leave it in God's hands to inform them if He wishes.
I don't pretend to know anything about God anymore. I think perhaps it was only my unconscious mind that wanted to convince me otherwise. What I am certain of is the unconscious mind is capable of playing both the part of God and the Devil.
How do you test a spirit?
GoodbyeDave
Well-Known Member
The original question was about talking to (or, presumably, hearing from) God. 54 replies and no-one has considered gods. Lots of polytheists have been spoken to by gods, while hardly anyone (except in unverifiable ancient texts) claims to have heard from God. Draw the obvious conclusion.
How do you test? By asking whether what was said was consistent with what one already knows about the god in question. It is also more convincing if the god is not just telling you what you want to hear!
How do you test? By asking whether what was said was consistent with what one already knows about the god in question. It is also more convincing if the god is not just telling you what you want to hear!
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Like Hinduism, paganism, and other god(s) related faiths, I would say real not imaginary. God doesn't have one definition and definitely not abrahamic. So, like American Indians, we'd have to go by their criteria of truth not ours.
leov
Well-Known Member
It is a part of process called Gnosis.
That is exactly what Baha'u'llah has asked each of us to do. To be just in our search. He has offered His person and life and the Word given as an example and standard. Also as a gift, offered the person and life of His son Abdul'baha as our perfect example as to how to live life by the Word Baha'u'llah offered from God.
Regards Tony
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
Our culture , which is based in part on the bible, is suspicious of communicators with the divine. The general view is that it is supposed to be rare and hard, and even the more bonafide biblical communicators seem to have been treated with extreme suspicion. I think that this got worse as biblical history progressed , as early communication became codified and more and more difficult to amend. I would think that this seems to be why the book finally ended, as a sort of critical mass tends to be reached as more and more communicators produce a locked body of 'unequivocal truths'
So we might contrast this with my view , that nature is our 'god,' and that the buck stops with nature. The problem with this, is that it of course severally questions the first principles of our civilization, principally this idea that we should automatically look beyond the garden of eden itself for some other craftsman within it. (the biblical god) That nature itself is the craftsman is completely left out of ancient biblical consideration. The snake and the two trees for example, are objects that that writer instantly colors with mistrust. Other parts of nature are reduced to a tool role, much of it is there merely to help man manipulate the world with self-concern
Nature is waiting for us to stop looking above and behind it, in my view. But it is open to communication: it is constantly trying to speak to us, all around us. It will patiently wait for a civilization that wants a relationship with it , and that future civilization may come to look on this age as being generally godless. The common perception of us being its 'owners' will have to change at some point, along with the view that it cannot sense or think in ways beyond what we can. It gave the human species obvious special powers though, and as long as the species lives, there is some hope that it can get back in touch with this larger mind of nature that birthed us
So we might contrast this with my view , that nature is our 'god,' and that the buck stops with nature. The problem with this, is that it of course severally questions the first principles of our civilization, principally this idea that we should automatically look beyond the garden of eden itself for some other craftsman within it. (the biblical god) That nature itself is the craftsman is completely left out of ancient biblical consideration. The snake and the two trees for example, are objects that that writer instantly colors with mistrust. Other parts of nature are reduced to a tool role, much of it is there merely to help man manipulate the world with self-concern
Nature is waiting for us to stop looking above and behind it, in my view. But it is open to communication: it is constantly trying to speak to us, all around us. It will patiently wait for a civilization that wants a relationship with it , and that future civilization may come to look on this age as being generally godless. The common perception of us being its 'owners' will have to change at some point, along with the view that it cannot sense or think in ways beyond what we can. It gave the human species obvious special powers though, and as long as the species lives, there is some hope that it can get back in touch with this larger mind of nature that birthed us
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