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[Survey] What do you believe in?

ThirtyThree

Well-Known Member
I had a good long laugh at that video. :D
Thanks for participating. I do have to tell you that though not every conspiracy theory is pure nonsense. Sure, some are pretty far out there, others such as the Watergate scandal turned out to be real.
I am like an Atheist when it comes to conspiracy theories like those in the survey, I require solid evidence before I will accept such things as fact. However, even then, I would probably consult the CIA about it before the public.

I believe there are secrets but they exist to protect the nation and its Citizens from enemies. Clarified information, in other words, and nothing on the level proposed by those conspiracy theories.
 

ThirtyThree

Well-Known Member
True, but these conspiracies do not require any form of belief to be true.

"Me and a few friends conspire to surprise my girlfriend on her birthday."
"Bankrobbers conspired to rob a bank."
are starkly different from
"Chemtrails are employed to control people".
"Alien abductions happen but are kept a secret.

Don't you think?
No, I do not believe "alien" abductions happen and are kept secret.
 

Nurion

Member
No, I do not believe "alien" abductions happen and are kept secret.
I never suggested that you do, and neither do I. :)
I was merely pointing out that beenherebeforeagain used a different meaning of "conspire" than that in a conspiracy theory.
Similar as the term "theory" has two meanings. In scientific contest a theory is the highest term awarded to any hypothesis as the best model to explain all the evidence. In is normal use, a theory is something that has not been proven yet, it's "just" a theory.
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
I had a look at the start of this survey, and it seemed to justify my long-held view that "social sciences" are really pseudo-sciences. It wants to know, for example, whether I decide issues with reason or intuition. The obvious answer is that it depends on the issue!
 

Nurion

Member
I had a look at the start of this survey, and it seemed to justify my long-held view that "social sciences" are really pseudo-sciences. It wants to know, for example, whether I decide issues with reason or intuition. The obvious answer is that it depends on the issue!
Questionnaires are but one tool that is at the disposal of "social siences" as you call it. And while it is true, that some questions can be understood ambiguously, this can also be tested for. Tendencies how respondents in certain subgroups answer can be identified and used to create tools that can better discriminate between those subgroups.
And that is exactly what usually happens. You get to see 20 Questions, but these 20 Questions used to be 50 or 60 Questions that have been administered to a thousand or more people. And only the items that can differentiate between whether someone is likely a member of that subgroup are kept in the final scale.

Additionally, as I said, those are self-report items, which CAN be influenced by people who fill out the questionnaire, because they know what the study is about. This is by no means the only way to get your data. There also many studies where you are you divide all participants into groups. One is the control group, where you establish the baseline. And the other group or groups get some kind of manipulation, where you try to trigger a response that is different.

For example: There is a brilliant study (Strack, F., Martin, L. L., & Stepper, S. (1988). Inhibiting and facilitating conditions of the human smile: a nonobtrusive test of the facial feedback hypothesis. Journal of personality and social psychology, 54(5), 768. ) where the experimenter let the participants rate how funny cartoons are. The clue being that they had to do some easy drawing tasks. In the control case with their non-dominant hand and in the two experimental cases they had to hold the pen either with their lips, thus making a more frowning face, and in the other case with their teeth, thus making a smile.
When after the tasks they had to rate how funny cartoons are, people in the lips condition rated them to be less funny as the control group, whereas people in the teeth condition rated them to be funnier than the control group did. Thus raising the question: Do we smile because we are happy, or are we happy because we smile?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I think I'll just add that the social sciences are sciences precisely because they aim to quantify the complexity of human behaviors and cultures... which is what metrics like this do. To someone who has studied how the methodologies work, it's often readily apparent which "surveys" use proper methodologies and which don't. In spite of the question batteries for this survey being problematic, it was obvious to me they were properly designed metrics. I used to be one of those folks who balked at the social sciences until I learned about how it is actually done by social scientists, and there's no doubt that it's science. Many of the problems arise with how the general public then interprets the findings, which is frankly an issue with the sciences as a whole. But because social sciences are more accessible than many other fields, there is a lot more armchair criticism going on by non-scientists.
 
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