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Supreme Court ruling on prayer case

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Shaul, Jun 28, 2022.

  1. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry The "I" in Reality

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    I also think we need to consider that a huge percentage of this "public display of religion" will occur in states where Christianity is very much the majority and it would take a vast amount of courage and legislation for minority traditions to do their thing publicly. Unfortunately, in many areas of America, I fear this legislation is very one-sided.
     
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  2. danieldemol

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    I think this sort of thing ignores the potential dangers of some religions to indoctrinate the powerless into harmful teachings.

    If it were my country I would call for all state sponsored religious displays to be banned.

    In my opinion.
     
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    Not just you, I am not too sure about trusting governments, esp. now they create all kinds of new laws, using corona as an excuse, and even impose childbirth now. So, I have trust issues too, but usually my feeling is not too much off..not all can be trusted nowadays

    I think it's crazy to make such a fuss about someone praying. In India almost all the taxi drivers, where I was, prayed first before starting the engine. They never asked me to pray, they just did a short prayer, burn some incense stick. Of course I had to wait till they finished:D, but usually their ritual was very short (1 minute or so). I liked it. And with this crazy Indian traffic, we need all the help we can get, to drive safe:)
     
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    As an atheist, given all I read about this case so far, I support this decision. It is lame to fire someone over this alone.

    Speaking of secularism, how about starting with no longer printing money with 'In God We Trust'?
     
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    Koldo Incredible Member

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    It seems the problem would be abuse of power rather than the prayers themselves then. Fire him away if he abuses his power, but not because of some potential danger.
     
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  6. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    There's another thread that delves into the details.
    This coach actually intended that his prayer include
    players for the purpose of their religious embiggenment.
    The coach refused accommodation for more private prayer.

    I'm OK with personal prayer. It's his right. But this
    decision actually broadens religious freedom to
    allow public school staff to proselytize to students.
    Just wait til a Satanist or Scientologist tries the
    same, eh.
     
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    Of course.
     
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    Reminds me of when on one of my last weeks of Boot camp, I decided I wanted to say the nightly prayer (one was said almost every night by a member of the division). I gave an invocation to Satan out of the Satanic Bible and read a passage I considered to fall under a prayer like format.

    90% of the Division was absolutely livid, and it took the Drill Instructors to keep the order.
     
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  10. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Its a good ruling. The government dosent have the right to impede ones personal practice of religion as long as coercion isn't involved.
     
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  11. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Dang. In the military one would think Satan would be a requirement for survival. ;0]


     
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    Peer pressure is considered to be coercion. So there goes that argument.
     
  13. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Not really. I'm sure if that was the case, we would have heard it by now.
     
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    What are you talking about? It is well known that peer pressure is coercion.
     
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    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Only if you let it.
     
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    Yeah right. Tell that to a teenager. The immorality of our current Supreme Court has been topped. but probably not for a least 100 years. They are not quite in Dred Scott territory, but they are pretty dang close.
     
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    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Most athletes I knew in school are not easily susceptible to coercion. Far from it. Call it that competitive aggressive quality.
     
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    Oh my. You are just fooling yourself. The peer pressure on a team is enormous and almost all cave to it. Did you ever do any high school sports at all?
     
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  19. Twilight Hue

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    Yea. And all the wussies stay at the sidelines.

    The only pressure was to win.
     
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    Nah. We usually would beat the hell out of our jocks if they lost. Our highschool team must've been masochists.
     
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