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Supreme Court rules subsidization of private schools must also include religious ones

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Twilight Hue, Jul 2, 2020.

  1. Twilight Hue

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    Private and Religious School Backers See Broad Victory in Supreme Court Decision

    Fair or unfair?

    Violation of separation of church and state?

    My own opinion on this is if it goes for education in terms of general subjects I'm okay with it.

    Yet taxpayer subsidy for the promotion of a religion seems to be a bit more spurious when it comes to religious institutions masquerading as schools.

    It's a bittersweet decision, but I would say the Supreme Court had attacked the Constitution by violating the separation of church and state clause in terms that the curriculum of religious institutions also include the promotion of an established religion of which now receives state backing and support.
     
  2. Quintessence

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    The ruling makes sense to me, from what little I know if it.

    If federal money is going to be used to back private entities - whether we're talking schools or some other organization - it should not discriminate on the basis of religion. As such, religious entities should not be excluded from federal support.

    To me the bigger question is what the role of our national government is in supporting private entities. I think there has been too much use of public tax dollars to support or bail out private entities. While it can be argued that supporting private entities is in the interest of the public good, there are so many public works projects that need to be done in this country I don't find that argument compelling these days.
     
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  3. Quetzal

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  4. Revoltingest

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    It would be constitutional to require that schools receiving a subsidy
    meet defined standards. If religious schools do that, then they're
    being subsidized for performing a secular function, ie, education.
    So I say the decision is a good one, but the devil is in the standards.
     
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  5. sun rise

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    The decision did not say that subsidies were required. There's no necessity for a state to subsidize private educational endeavors so that's one way out of the problem.
     
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  6. Father Heathen

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    So these for prophet and for profit schools/businesses get a slice of my tax dollars? Supreme being sucklin' from the nanny state teet? o_O
     
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    We're gonna pay for education one way or another....public or private schools.
     
  8. Father Heathen

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    Obviously, but I want my tax dollars to go towards education not indoctrination. The establishment clause of the 1st amendment and all that.
     
  9. Revoltingest

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    That is where requiring meeting educational standards is useful.
     
  10. Father Heathen

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    But if they're a private for profit business, what are their hands doing in my pockets? I'm not receiving any of their services in return.
     
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  11. esmith

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    In actuality many charter/private schools are considerably better at education than public schools. Why do you think a lot of minority parents want to send their children to charter schools vice a broken public education system.
     
  12. Koldo

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    Because the broken public education system never gets fixed.
     
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  13. ADigitalArtist

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    It should come as no surprise that after Republicans continuously slash and burn the public school system to fund their private cronies that the smaller and better funded private schools do better. The response should not be post hoc 'well look at how well private schools are doing!' But get Republican grubby fingers out of the pies of public funds.

    Public funds for public schools.
     
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  14. Father Heathen

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    And that entitles them to my tax dollars because...?
     
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  15. Father Heathen

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    Obviously. Public via tax. Private via their direct customers.
     
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  16. esmith

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    Millions of dollars have been heaped on the public school system and nothing changes. How's that for wasting tax payers dollars.
     
  17. ADigitalArtist

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    Citation ****ing needed. Please demonstrate that schools 'don't change' when given adequate budget and supplies.
     
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    We give millions of dollars to police and they're still corrupt racist murderers. Guess we should call the whole thing off.
     
  19. Father Heathen

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    Answer my question.
     
  20. Revoltingest

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    The lessen the burden of financing public schools.
     
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