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Featured Superstition vs. Faith

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by SigurdReginson, Feb 27, 2021.

  1. Windwalker

    Windwalker Veteran Member
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    It is perspectives of philosophers and thinkers based upon the work of researchers. If you'd like, I could sit and type out all the lists of names they use, or you could just care enough to look yourself. I cited Gebser. I cited Beck. Those are your starting points. Making it about a list of names, is a red herring.

    You have no evidence to support your claim. I do. I cited references. You cited none. I don't think you actually are interested in anything that challenges your ideas which lack support.
     
  2. ecco

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    I wasn't reducing religion down to a few basic curiosities. I was discussing the origins of gods and subsequently, religions. Remember, religions imply god worship. No gods, no religions.

    Linking to a commentary of a philosophical opinion is not evidence of anything.
     
  3. Windwalker

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    You did not address how animism has no gods, nor how it exists prior in history to mythic gods systems. You are ignoring the data.

    The hell it's not.
     
  4. ecco

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    In past discussions with you, I noted that you tend to make up your own definitions and then try to argue from that standpoint. You are doing it again.

    People also ask
    Why is animism not considered a religion?
    Animism Definition

    Animism is often used to illustrate contrasts between ancient beliefs and modern organized religion. It most cases, animism is not considered to be a religion in its own right, but rather a feature of various practices and beliefs.Apr 5, 2019


    re·li·gion
    /rəˈlijən/
    noun
    1. the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
      "ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
    I asked earlier "which researchers" and you basically told me to find them. Now you assert that anthropologists disagree with the definition of "religion". I have to ask: which anthropologists? Are you going to tell me that I need to look them up?
     
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    Apology accepted, I should have made myself clearer earlier.
     
  6. URAVIP2ME

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    First of all, one needs to know that the word hell fire comes from the word Gehenna.
    Gehenna was just a garbage pit outside of Jerusalem where things were destroyed.
    When King James translated the word Gehenna into English as hell fire that put the flames in hell.
    So, it's false clergy (Not Jesus) who uses hell fire as a scare tactic on the flock of God.
    Jesus did NOT threat with hell because biblical hell is just mankind's temporary stone-cold grave for the sleeping dead.
    Notice what Jesus taught was from the OT at John 11:11-14; Psalms 115:17; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5
    The dead sleep, so a dead person is in hell or the grave, and asleep until Resurrection Day - Acts of the Apostles 24:15.
    So, to me what is very clear is that false teachings are what is clear to you and Not clear as to what the Bible really teaches.

    Think about this: False clergy teach No end to hell or hell fire.
    Whereas, biblical hell comes to a final end according to Revelation 20:13-14.
    After everyone in hell is ' delivered up ' (that means resurrected out of hell/grave) then emptied-out hell is cast empty into that symbolic 'second death' for vacated biblical hell.
     
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    I have noticed many people are starting to realize the cruelty of Hell. Just like horoscopes, they are trying their best to make things fit. If grave is what was meant, why do some not go there? Why not say grave? It does not add up.

    Even if I said ok to that, what about all those other petty things??

    That's what I see. It's very clear!!
     
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    If one conceives of god and a house elf as different realities, then how could it be the same to ask for help from either?
     
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