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Sukarno's daughter accused of blasphemy after comparing father to Prophet Muhammad

Discussion in 'Religious News' started by danieldemol, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. danieldemol

    danieldemol Well-Known Member
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    'Sukmawati Soekarnoputri, the daughter of Indonesia’s first president Sukarno, has been accused of blasphemy after purportedly comparing her father to Prophet Muhammad.

    A mass organization called the Bima Islam Youth Forum reported Sukmawati to the National Police’s Criminal Investigation Department (Bareskrim) on Saturday, accusing her of making blasphemous remarks the group said had “defamed Islam”.

    The report, signed by Imron Abidin as the forum’s representative, particularly lamented Sukmawati’s remarks made in her speech during a discussion forum dated Nov. 11, footage of which has been making the rounds on social media.

    “Ibu Sukmawati was running a discussion forum on radicalism and terrorism. There were several points in her speech that we think defamed Islam,” the group’s lawyer, Dedi Junaedi, said as quoted by kompas.com.

    In the footage, which was also posted by Twitter user @intanRatuaja12, Sukmawati was seen talking before an audience and asking them, “Who fought for [Indonesia’s] independence in the 20th century, Prophet Muhammad or Soekarno?” and demanded their answer.

    Prior to making the statement, Sukmawati could also be heard asking, “Which one is better, Pancasila or the Quran?” referring to Indonesia’s state ideology.'

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  2. Subduction Zone

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    This is an example of why "Draw Muhammad Day" should be an international holiday.
     
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  3. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    Just don't post your drawing on RF (rule violation).
     
  4. lewisnotmiller

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    The intent of the rule here is to encourage discourse. Even discourse that contends Muhammad isn't the prophet of God. Blasphemy laws don't have the same intent, imho.
     
  5. Stevicus

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    What about a drawing of Muhammad Ali (the boxer)?
     
  6. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    I spoke only of depicting Muhammad here.

    Note:
    I'm not privy to how the mods write & interpret the rules.
    I know only what I personally experience at their most noble & gracious hands.
     
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  7. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    The lesser Muhammads are OK to draw.
     
  8. Nakosis

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    I work with a guy Muhammad. Could I draw him and title it Muhammad?

    Considering no one knows what he looked like, I could draw anyone named Muhammad and just say it was my cousin.
     
  9. Father Heathen

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    Here is my depiction of The Prophet Mohammad.

    .O
    /|\
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  10. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    It might all hinge upon a complaint & its volume.
     
  11. Nakosis

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    Reported! :mad:

    JK
     
  12. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    Actually, that looks more like @Rival.
     
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  13. Stevicus

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    That looks like Phil Collins.
     
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  14. rational experiences

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    The scientific male reasoning of the Creator is Allah...or the accepted One God theme....O being planet Earth, the body on which all life stands/exists.

    A prophet was a science male known prophetic reasoning in science about what stone came and saved Earth, when science as the CULT UFO radiation mass history attacked it. As what a male studied, and determined was a son of stone, gas mass that cooled Earth and saved it.

    So in literal terms, the spirit of the stone that saved life on God O Earth as a science statement.

    For factually they always said that there is no one before Allah, or God as One.

    O meaning stone existed in existence.
    O stone created its own spirits in the heaven, the gases.

    And the O one body owned it against science male liars.

    For we all have to be living on the body of stone in natural factual nature and in spirit self presence to talk science, as a conscious self, a human.

    So factually there was never any other spirit....for saving of the planet always came after it had been attacked.

    What the spiritual male story was told for against self choice in science attack/destruction and its reasonings.

    Factually no human is wrong to claim self saved.....yet a human is wrong to claim that they are the body that saved....as a mind and a self.

    Yet a child says to its own human parent consciously....you had sex, my life was born and you gave me life and therefore saved me....what human spirits believe in the presence of their human parents.

    Using factual spiritual conscious awareness, only proves how wrong humans are about claiming the spirit of life in conditions, self expressed by a mind, when NATURAL was always present without any human claiming I own or I know.
     
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