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Suffering

Fool

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
LiveByFaithNotSight said:
Explain in detail if possible and if your a Christian please use scripture
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ignorance of the law is not an excuse for the law.

Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the Lord concerning things which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them:



bewilder = mystify

And your children shall wander in the wilderness forty years, and bear your whoredoms, until your carcases be wasted in the wilderness.


John 4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

you worship what you believe, or do not know. we know what we worship for salvation is of the praised


god is love, compassion. ungodliness is the lack of love, compassion
 
chinu

chinu

chinu
LiveByFaithNotSight said:
Why is there So much Suffering in the world and is Suffering a Direct punishment from God? if Not who is the one Causing Suffering?
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Its the "Karma" or say "Our own bad actions that we did in the past" is the only cause of suffering.
Suffering isn't a punishment. Suffering is just that we get in return to our bad actions that we did to others in the past.

Hence, now the intelligent question is: Will there be ever end to suffering in this world ?
Answer is: NO.

Because, a big fish eats a small fish, and that big fish is get eaten by another big fish.
One is the food of another, Its the rule to survive in this world. BAD will happen unwillingly, and there's NO way to get escape out of this circle while living in this world.

Hence, Now the intelligent question is; "Salvation" or "Moksha" or Heaven" ?
 
LiveByFaithNotSight

LiveByFaithNotSight

The Art Of Conversing
Fool said:
ignorance of the law is not an excuse for the law.

Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the commandments of the Lord concerning things which ought not to be done, and shall do against any of them:



bewilder = mystify

And your children shall wander in the wilderness forty years, and bear your whoredoms, until your carcases be wasted in the wilderness.


John 4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

you worship what you believe, or do not know. we know what we worship for salvation is of the praised


god is love, compassion. ungodliness is the lack of love, compassion
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so who is to blame for the worlds suffering?
 
LiveByFaithNotSight

LiveByFaithNotSight

The Art Of Conversing
chinu said:
Its the "Karma" or say "Our own bad actions that we did in the past" is the only cause of suffering.
Suffering isn't a punishment. Suffering is just that we get in return to our bad actions that we did to others in the past.

Hence, now the intelligent question is: Will there be ever end to suffering in this world ?
Answer is: NO.

Because, a big fish eats a small fish, and that big fish is get eaten by another big fish.
One is the food of another, Its the rule to survive in this world. BAD will happen unwillingly, and there's NO way to get escape out of this circle while living in this world.

Hence, Now the intelligent question is; "Salvation" or "Moksha" or Heaven" ?
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Scripture Agrees with our Bad decisions come with
"Our own bad actions that we did in the past"

Ecclesiastes 8:9 "9.during the time that man has dominated man to his harm"

But Scripture Promises a Future without suffering

Revelation 21:3,4

"3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
 
chinu

chinu

chinu
LiveByFaithNotSight said:
Scripture Agrees with our Bad decisions come with
"Our own bad actions that we did in the past"

Ecclesiastes 8:9 "9.during the time that man has dominated man to his harm"

But Scripture Promises a Future without suffering

Revelation 21:3,4

"3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
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Here scriptures talk about "Salvation".
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Some suffering is inevitable. For instance, if you sustain a grievous physical injury, or someone you love dies. But a lot of suffering is unnecessary and caused not by an event itself, but by our response to it. Humans tend to emotionally and psychologically cling to suffering, nurse it, cultivate it, in ways they might not even be aware of as clinging, nursing, and cultivating. That prolongs suffering way beyond what is necessary.
 
chinu

chinu

chinu
LiveByFaithNotSight said:
explain what your statement means. sorry I'm new on this site
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With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
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Here scriptures are talking about some place which is away from the cycle of DEATHS
If NO deaths, than its quite understood there's also NO births.

Away from the cycle of deaths and births is = "Salvation"
 
LiveByFaithNotSight

LiveByFaithNotSight

The Art Of Conversing
chinu said:
Here scriptures are talking about some place which is away from the cycle of DEATHS
If NO deaths, than its quite understood there's also NO births.

Away from the cycle of deaths and births is = "Salvation"
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that's a interesting outlook and its speaking about Earth in a paradise state in the future. notice no more death, pain, outcry. Insinuating that there was those things present in the first place. So the question is does death pain morning and outcry exist in heaven? if not then where is this prophecy taking place?
 
chinu

chinu

chinu
LiveByFaithNotSight said:
that's a interesting outlook and its speaking about Earth in a paradise state in the future. notice no more death, pain, outcry. Insinuating that there was those things present in the first place. So the question is does death pain morning and outcry exist in heaven? if not then where is this prophecy taking place?
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What's the fragrance of Rose ?
No one can explain or write.

Smell it and know it.
 
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