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Stupidity Is Spreading

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The right to do stupid things doesn't mean stupid things should be done.
It's no longer just opposition to Covid 19 vaccination...it's all kinds.
Growing vaccine hesitancy fuels measles, chickenpox resurgence in U.S.
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A rapidly growing measles outbreak in Columbus, Ohio — largely involving unvaccinated children — is fueling concerns among health officials that more parent resistance to routine childhood immunizations will intensify a resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases.

Most of the 81 children infected so far are old enough to get the shots, but their parents chose not to do so, officials said, resulting in the country’s largest outbreak of the highly infectious pathogen this year.

“That is what is causing this outbreak to spread like wildfire,” said Mysheika Roberts, director of the Columbus health department.

The Ohio outbreak, which began in November, comes at a time of heightened worry about the public health consequences of anti-vaccine sentiment, a long-standing problem that has led to drops in child immunization rates in pockets across the United States. The pandemic has magnified those concerns because of controversies and politicization around coronavirus vaccines and school vaccine mandates.

More than a third of parents with children under 18 — and 28 percent of all adults — now say parents should be able to decide not to vaccinate their children for measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) to attend public schools, even if remaining unvaccinated may create health risks for others, according to new polling by the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health-care research nonprofit.

Public sentiments against vaccine mandates have grown significantly since the pandemic, said Jen Kates, a Kaiser senior vice president. A 2019 poll by the Pew Research Center found that less than a quarter of parents — and 16 percent of all adults — opposed school vaccination requirements.

The growing opposition stems largely from shifts among people who identify as or lean Republican, the Kaiser survey found, with 44 percent saying parents should be able to opt out of those childhood vaccines — more than double the 20 percent who felt that way in 2019.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
The right to do stupid things doesn't mean stupid things should be done.
It's no longer just opposition to Covid 19 vaccination...it's all kinds.
Growing vaccine hesitancy fuels measles, chickenpox resurgence in U.S.
Excerpted...
View attachment 69863
A rapidly growing measles outbreak in Columbus, Ohio — largely involving unvaccinated children — is fueling concerns among health officials that more parent resistance to routine childhood immunizations will intensify a resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases.

Most of the 81 children infected so far are old enough to get the shots, but their parents chose not to do so, officials said, resulting in the country’s largest outbreak of the highly infectious pathogen this year.

“That is what is causing this outbreak to spread like wildfire,” said Mysheika Roberts, director of the Columbus health department.

The Ohio outbreak, which began in November, comes at a time of heightened worry about the public health consequences of anti-vaccine sentiment, a long-standing problem that has led to drops in child immunization rates in pockets across the United States. The pandemic has magnified those concerns because of controversies and politicization around coronavirus vaccines and school vaccine mandates.

More than a third of parents with children under 18 — and 28 percent of all adults — now say parents should be able to decide not to vaccinate their children for measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) to attend public schools, even if remaining unvaccinated may create health risks for others, according to new polling by the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health-care research nonprofit.

Public sentiments against vaccine mandates have grown significantly since the pandemic, said Jen Kates, a Kaiser senior vice president. A 2019 poll by the Pew Research Center found that less than a quarter of parents — and 16 percent of all adults — opposed school vaccination requirements.

The growing opposition stems largely from shifts among people who identify as or lean Republican, the Kaiser survey found, with 44 percent saying parents should be able to opt out of those childhood vaccines — more than double the 20 percent who felt that way in 2019.

Man reaps what he sows.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
The right to do stupid things doesn't mean stupid things should be done.
It's no longer just opposition to Covid 19 vaccination...it's all kinds.
Growing vaccine hesitancy fuels measles, chickenpox resurgence in U.S.
Excerpted...
View attachment 69863
A rapidly growing measles outbreak in Columbus, Ohio — largely involving unvaccinated children — is fueling concerns among health officials that more parent resistance to routine childhood immunizations will intensify a resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases.

Most of the 81 children infected so far are old enough to get the shots, but their parents chose not to do so, officials said, resulting in the country’s largest outbreak of the highly infectious pathogen this year.

“That is what is causing this outbreak to spread like wildfire,” said Mysheika Roberts, director of the Columbus health department.

The Ohio outbreak, which began in November, comes at a time of heightened worry about the public health consequences of anti-vaccine sentiment, a long-standing problem that has led to drops in child immunization rates in pockets across the United States. The pandemic has magnified those concerns because of controversies and politicization around coronavirus vaccines and school vaccine mandates.

More than a third of parents with children under 18 — and 28 percent of all adults — now say parents should be able to decide not to vaccinate their children for measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) to attend public schools, even if remaining unvaccinated may create health risks for others, according to new polling by the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health-care research nonprofit.

Public sentiments against vaccine mandates have grown significantly since the pandemic, said Jen Kates, a Kaiser senior vice president. A 2019 poll by the Pew Research Center found that less than a quarter of parents — and 16 percent of all adults — opposed school vaccination requirements.

The growing opposition stems largely from shifts among people who identify as or lean Republican, the Kaiser survey found, with 44 percent saying parents should be able to opt out of those childhood vaccines — more than double the 20 percent who felt that way in 2019.

Do they not attend public schools because that vaccine is required...Or are they not school aged?

"49 states and DC require the MMR vaccine for kindergarten entry. Some states list the MMRV (measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella) vaccine as appropriate. Iowa, the only state to not require the MMR vaccine, requires a measles and a rubella vaccine, but not a mumps vaccine"

State-by-State: Vaccinations Required for Public School Kindergarten - ProCon.org.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
The right to do stupid things doesn't mean stupid things should be done.
It's no longer just opposition to Covid 19 vaccination...it's all kinds.
Growing vaccine hesitancy fuels measles, chickenpox resurgence in U.S.
Excerpted...
View attachment 69863
A rapidly growing measles outbreak in Columbus, Ohio — largely involving unvaccinated children — is fueling concerns among health officials that more parent resistance to routine childhood immunizations will intensify a resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases.

Most of the 81 children infected so far are old enough to get the shots, but their parents chose not to do so, officials said, resulting in the country’s largest outbreak of the highly infectious pathogen this year.

“That is what is causing this outbreak to spread like wildfire,” said Mysheika Roberts, director of the Columbus health department.

The Ohio outbreak, which began in November, comes at a time of heightened worry about the public health consequences of anti-vaccine sentiment, a long-standing problem that has led to drops in child immunization rates in pockets across the United States. The pandemic has magnified those concerns because of controversies and politicization around coronavirus vaccines and school vaccine mandates.

More than a third of parents with children under 18 — and 28 percent of all adults — now say parents should be able to decide not to vaccinate their children for measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) to attend public schools, even if remaining unvaccinated may create health risks for others, according to new polling by the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health-care research nonprofit.

Public sentiments against vaccine mandates have grown significantly since the pandemic, said Jen Kates, a Kaiser senior vice president. A 2019 poll by the Pew Research Center found that less than a quarter of parents — and 16 percent of all adults — opposed school vaccination requirements.

The growing opposition stems largely from shifts among people who identify as or lean Republican, the Kaiser survey found, with 44 percent saying parents should be able to opt out of those childhood vaccines — more than double the 20 percent who felt that way in 2019.

Well, there's definitely a lot of stupid people out there. No doubt about that. A lot of these stupid people procreate and become parents, and in society's viewpoint, that somehow imbues with some great special wisdom to the point that they're given license to make decisions on the fate of their offspring. Even when it's horribly irresponsible and medically unsound.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Technically it's not stupidity, raw intelligence, that's the problem. Having a high IQ does not stop someone from being a blithering idiot.

We have the clinically paranoid who are sure that government is out to get them and adopt conspiracy theories that assume a million people can keep the details secret.

Then there are those in the "media" who spread fear, distrust and lies for financial gain. This can involve gaslighting.

The general tenor of what is going on in the world today magnifies such tendencies of the vulnerable with lethal consequences.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Technically it's not stupidity, raw intelligence, that's the problem. Having a high IQ does not stop someone from being a blithering idiot.

We have the clinically paranoid who are sure that government is out to get them and adopt conspiracy theories that assume a million people can keep the details secret.

Then there are those in the "media" who spread fear, distrust and lies for financial gain. This can involve gaslighting.

The general tenor of what is going on in the world today magnifies such tendencies of the vulnerable with lethal consequences.

Common sense is going extinct faster than the dinosaurs :p
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
The right to do stupid things doesn't mean stupid things should be done.
It's no longer just opposition to Covid 19 vaccination...it's all kinds.
Growing vaccine hesitancy fuels measles, chickenpox resurgence in U.S.
Excerpted...
View attachment 69863
A rapidly growing measles outbreak in Columbus, Ohio — largely involving unvaccinated children — is fueling concerns among health officials that more parent resistance to routine childhood immunizations will intensify a resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases.

Most of the 81 children infected so far are old enough to get the shots, but their parents chose not to do so, officials said, resulting in the country’s largest outbreak of the highly infectious pathogen this year.

“That is what is causing this outbreak to spread like wildfire,” said Mysheika Roberts, director of the Columbus health department.

The Ohio outbreak, which began in November, comes at a time of heightened worry about the public health consequences of anti-vaccine sentiment, a long-standing problem that has led to drops in child immunization rates in pockets across the United States. The pandemic has magnified those concerns because of controversies and politicization around coronavirus vaccines and school vaccine mandates.

More than a third of parents with children under 18 — and 28 percent of all adults — now say parents should be able to decide not to vaccinate their children for measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) to attend public schools, even if remaining unvaccinated may create health risks for others, according to new polling by the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health-care research nonprofit.

Public sentiments against vaccine mandates have grown significantly since the pandemic, said Jen Kates, a Kaiser senior vice president. A 2019 poll by the Pew Research Center found that less than a quarter of parents — and 16 percent of all adults — opposed school vaccination requirements.

The growing opposition stems largely from shifts among people who identify as or lean Republican, the Kaiser survey found, with 44 percent saying parents should be able to opt out of those childhood vaccines — more than double the 20 percent who felt that way in 2019.
Maybe this is how we avoid "Idiocracy" becoming a reality. The stupids still reproduce more but only a few get to reproductive age.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
There are so many out there who speak of the “stupidity” of others… who are not as bright as they imagine themselves to be.

I suppose it is human nature to exaggerate one’s own strengths, and to compare one’s self to what is perceived to be “the lesser”… to obscure how flawed and pathetic one may actually be in reality.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
There are so many out there who speak of the “stupidity” of others… who are not as bright as they imagine themselves to be.

I suppose it is human nature to exaggerate one’s own strengths, and to compare one’s self to what is perceived to be “the lesser”… to obscure how flawed and pathetic one may actually be in reality.

I’m dumb as hell. I freely admit this

The anti vax movement has been thoroughly discredited for decades now. Even called out by those who survived childhood diseases that have only now recently gotten vaccines.
So I don’t know what else to call someone who chooses to believe in anti vax conspiracy theories
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
I’m dumb as hell. I freely admit this

These are your words, not mine.

You may describe yourself as “dumb”, yet even the most basic knowledge that you possess outshines a significant segment of the human population. I would not describe you or them as “stupid people”, for everyone has their strengths, intellectually… and their weaknesses. Even the most brilliant among us will forever be ignorant of many subjects.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Maybe this is how we avoid "Idiocracy" becoming a reality. The stupids still reproduce more but only a few get to reproductive age.
If eugenics is the goal, this is a very
haphazard way to not achieve it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Calling people ‘stupid’ is not helpful.
Your criticism is fair.
But note that I labeled acts "stupid", not people.
I intended it to be provocative.
I recognize this might be a bad idea,
But I experiment here.
Of course, being an anti-vaxer doesn't mean someone is stupid.
Even smart people are irrational about some beliefs. And some
of the "stupidest" (believing loopy things) are smarter than I.
 
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PureX

Veteran Member
It began with Reagan telling us that government is incompitant and should no longer be allowed to tell us what to do. Instead, the lie was spread that for profit business was far more efficient and effective, and that government should get out of the way of business so business can fix all the problems that government can't, or causes.

People love to hate and blame the government for everything, like adolescents love to hate and blame their parents, or teachers. And of course big business really wanted to foster this childish nonsense so it could eliminate government oversight and regulation.

And the results have been horrible for most people. Deregulation of business has resulted in government corruption, stagnant wages, huge disparities of wealth and power, and massive increases in poverty and unemployment. Turns out we really needed our government to protect us from business in a capitalist system, and we gave business the weapon they used to destroy it. So that now government really is as incompitant and ineffective as we all blamed it for being, and so we made it become. While the greed run amok of big business has become frighteningly efficient at robbing us all blind.

And many among the general population still have not grown up beyond being those selfish, foolish adolescents; blaming the grown ups for not letting them do whatever they want, whenever they want, and however they want. The grown ups being the scientists, public officials, and experts in any field of knowledge. Because as stupid defiant children, they all assume that they know ether.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It began with Reagan telling us that government is incompitant and should no longer be allowed to tell us what to do. Instead, the lie was spread that for profit business was far more efficient and effective, and that government should get out of the way of business so business can fix all the problems that government can't, or causes.
Just before you posted this, I was listening to a
story on NPR about a parents who lost custody
of all their children.
Why, you ask?
The kids were briefly in foster care. The parents
were sent a bill for the cost of foster care, but
didn't pay it. Federal guidelines prohibit this practice
by the states. But even worse, the parents weren't
even notified they had to pay this bill until months
after the kids were taken for non-payment.

You can chide business for all sorts of things.
(The current complaint: fast food prices are up.)
But only government achieves the perfect storm of
impunity, incompetence, draconian laws, & the
power to send the unwilling off to fight in useless
wars, to take our children away, to conduct medical
experiments on us without our knowledge, to murder
us during traffic stops, & to put innocent people in
prisons where they're subjected to rape & stabbing.
 
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Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
These are your words, not mine.

You may describe yourself as “dumb”, yet even the most basic knowledge that you possess outshines a significant segment of the human population. I would not describe you or them as “stupid people”, for everyone has their strengths, intellectually… and their weaknesses. Even the most brilliant among us will forever be ignorant of many subjects.
And especially so if religion has control over your mind perhaps. :oops:
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Just before you posted this, I was listening to a
story on NPR about a parents who lost custody
of all their children.
Why, you ask?
The kids were briefly in foster care. The parents
were sent a bill for the cost of foster care, but
didn't pay it. Federal guidelines prohibit this practice
by the states. But even worse, the parents weren't
even notified they had to pay this bill until months
after the kids were taken for non-payment.

You can chide business for all sorts of things.
(The current complaint: fast food prices are up.)
But only government achieves the perfect storm of
impunity, incompetence, draconian laws, & the
power to send the unwilling off to fight in useless
wars, to take our children away, to conduct medical
experiments on us without our knowledge, to murder
us during traffic stops, & to put innocent people in
prisons where they're subjected to rape & stabbing.
Yes, but we can unelect them. Something we cannot do with the CEOs of all kind of corporate conglomerates that rob us with impunity every day, just because under capitalism, they can. And in a modern inter-dependent culture we can't refuse to pay them.

Government is not perfect. But at least we have some control over it. Or we did have before the corporate conglomerates completely bribed and corrupted it. And we let it happen because like stupid adolescents, we wanted to blame the very entity charged with protecting us, for doing it's job, and protecting us. And as a result, we gave the very people we needed protected from the bullet they needed to destroy it. And now we are at their mercy.

And they have no mercy. They have only their bottomless greed to guide them.
 
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