Plumb Straight Homo: Ha-Adam.

[John D. Brey]

Proving that ha-adam (the first human, i.e., homo) was the first homo sexual is, or would be, probably, the greatest theological exploit attempted in these here parts in a long time. It would literally bring the Bible out of the closeted straight-jacket of orthodoxy and into the multispectrumed light of a modern scientific examination freed from the straight-jacket of calcified theological backwardness.



Johh

 

[Lain]

Proving that ha-adam (the first human, i.e., homo) was the first homosexual is, or would be, probably, the greatest theological exploit attempted in these here parts in a long time. It would literally bring the Bible out of the closeted straight-jacket of orthodoxy and into the multispectrumed light of a modern scientific examination freed from the straight-jacket of calcified theological backwardness.



Johh

In what sense are you using "homosexual"? Is this post just a pun on the word homo?

 

[John D. Brey]

In what sense are you using "homosexual"? Is this post just a pun on the word homo?

It's not just a pun on the word. It wants to strive to be much more.



John

 

[Bodie]

It was reported that the Abrahamic god did say be "fruitful"

 

[Lain]

It's not just a pun on the word. It wants to strive to be much more.



John

I see. Hopefully whatever paths are gone on are in the light of the divinely inspired Fathers.

 

[exchemist]

Proving that ha-adam (the first human, i.e., homo) was the first homosexual is, or would be, probably, the greatest theological exploit attempted in these here parts in a long time. It would literally bring the Bible out of the closeted straight-jacket of orthodoxy and into the multispectrumed light of a modern scientific examination freed from the straight-jacket of calcified theological backwardness.



Johh

Latin homo, hominis, meaning man, and the Greek prefix homo- meaning same or similar, are of quite different origins.

The word homosexual is derived from the latter, so is applicable to both men and women, for example.

 

[Altfish]

Proving that ha-adam (the first human, i.e., homo) was the first homosexual is, or would be, probably, the greatest theological exploit attempted in these here parts in a long time. It would literally bring the Bible out of the closeted straight-jacket of orthodoxy and into the multispectrumed light of a modern scientific examination freed from the straight-jacket of calcified theological backwardness.

Johh

I thought there was only supposed to be Adam and Eve; who was this homosexual relationship with?

 

[John D. Brey]

I see. Hopefully whatever paths are gone on are in the light of the divinely inspired Fathers.

. . . Have you seen that Rob Gronkowski commercial where he's told that USAA is special because it serves only vets, so that Rob responds, "But I'm special"?

This is like that. "Oh but I'm divinely inspired."



John

 

[Lain]

. . . Have you seen that Rob Gronkowski commercial where he's told that USAA is special because it serves only vets, so that Rob responds, "But I'm special"?

This is like that. "But I'm divinely inspired."



John

Haven't seen it but it sounds funny. Ain't nothin' wrong with being special if it's true.

 

[John D. Brey]

Haven't seen it but it sounds funny.

You can't be a football fan. If you watch the Cardinals and the Packers tonight, I promise you'll see Gronkowski's commercial five or ten times.

John

 

[John D. Brey]

Latin homo, hominis, meaning man, and the Greek prefix homo- meaning same or similar, are of quite different origins.

Since the first living organisms were all the same sex (gender), they were all homo (same) sexual. And since ha-adam was the first of her kind, the first biblical human, she was homo (same) sexually gendered even though religious types might like to think of her as straight. In vulgar parlance she was so ugly the Masoretes thought she was a dude. And straight as a board that's never been nailed.



John

 

[Lain]

Since the first living organisms were all the same sex (gender), they were all homo (same) sexual. And since ha-adam was the first of her kind, the first biblical human, she was homo (same) sexually gendered even though religious types might like to think of her as straight. In vulgar parlance she was so ugly the Masoretes thought she was a dude. And straight as a board that's never been nailed.



John

What makes you think that Adam before Eve proceeded from him was a woman, or that there was only one sex for the first living organisms?

 

[John D. Brey]

What makes you think that Adam before Eve proceeded from him was a woman, or that there was only one sex for the first living organisms?

Concerning the latter question, we know, scientifically speaking, that all the original living cells were the same gender (or what we might consider un-gendered). It's more accurate scientifically, philosophically, and logically, to consider the first living organisms "female" than non-gendered.

The first human was a female. The Catholic veneration of Mary (Mariology) is based on the fact that Mary, as the mother of Christ, is the latter-day human who accomplished what ha-adam (the first human) was supposed to accomplish if not for the original desecration (Genesis 2:21) followed by the original sin through which Cain, rather than Christ, was conceived. Theo-technically speaking, Mary is the second ha-adam, while Christ is the second Adam, who, the second Adam, would've been the first Adam, if ha-adam had remained as she began.



John

 

[John D. Brey]

I thought there was only supposed to be Adam and Eve; who was this homosexual relationship with?

As pointed out earlier in the thread, "homo" can mean mankind, or same. In this case, prior to Genesis 2:21, it kinda means both.



John

 

[Altfish]

As pointed out earlier in the thread, "homo" can mean mankind, or same. In this case, prior to Genesis 2:21, it kinda means both.



John

But when the word sexual is added it takes on a whole new meaning

 

[exchemist]

Since the first living organisms were all the same sex (gender), they were all homo (same) sexual. And since ha-adam was the first of her kind, the first biblical human, she was homo (same) sexually gendered even though religious types might like to think of her as straight. In vulgar parlance she was so ugly the Masoretes thought she was a dude. And straight as a board that's never been nailed.



John

Well no, that's not right. The first organisms were asexual, which means they had no sex at all.

The term "sex" is only applicable to sexual reproduction, which involves different individual organisms combining their genetic material to create new combinations.

Asexual reproduction is typically simple cell division, in which only one organism is involved and with no mixing of genetic material.

And why all the hillbilly similes, suddenly? Have you had a personality transplant? Or just a stroke?

 

[John D. Brey]

But when the word sexual is added it takes on a whole new meaning

A person's "sex" is often used to speak of their gender. So a homo sexual can be a person who's gender is the same as everyone else's. In this sense, ha-adam was a homo sexual until Genesis 2:21.



John

 

[Altfish]

A person's "sex" is often used to speak of their gender. So a homo sexual can be a person who's gender is the same as everyone else's. In this sense, ha-adam was a homo sexual until Genesis 2:21.



John

If you say so.

 

[John D. Brey]

Well no, that's not right. The first organisms were asexual, which means they had no sex at all.

If they had no sex/gender at all, then evolution would have resulted in the development of both genders, female, and male. Both genders would've evolved from organisms that had no gender. Nevertheless we see that in the womb, the first cell, the ovum, is, technically speaking, female, since it's X chromosomal, and that if flooded with testosterone it can transform into male. In the sense of a recapitulation theory, this can imply that although the original organisms weren't part of a dualistic gender domain, nevertheless it's accurate to speak of non-gendered female organisms in hindsight.

If we use retrospective exposition and logic it's fair to say the original organisms were female organisms such that the evolutionary development of the "male" is anomalous, while the female is seminal (so to say) and original. It's the development of dual gender that's at the root of this thread.



John

 

[Lain]

A person's "sex" is often used to speak of their gender. So a homo sexual can be a person who's gender is the same as everyone else's. In this sense, ha-adam was a homo sexual until Genesis 2:21.



John

There were no other human persons at this time though for there to be an "everyone else," but the Lord Himself said that he was alone and so made a woman from him.