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STeven Tyler ????????

Discussion in 'Music' started by Riders, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. Riders

    Riders Well-Known Member

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    So I came across this video from CBN the Christians station.It has a long segment about Steven Tylers life.
    I did not listen to it all, its an hour long . It takes awhile to get to the bad part of Stevens life so you have to hear the whole thing.
    So I read up on the responses of the video, what people had to say about it posts. They were talking about him being a ****head because he forced his 16 year old wife against her will to have an abortion.he tried to murder one of his ex wives and tried to murder his ex 16 year old girlfriend.

    So I listened to a video made my his ex girlfriend who was a 16 year old , put his in ward. While its true he did marry a 16 year old, hes a sex addict and slimeball apparently, she said the fire she was in was an accident. He did not try to kill her.

    He also did not force her to get an abortion. He tried to talk her into it but then told her it was up to her and she chose it.So the guy is a *******. But the CBN story is not true.
    I also researched the internet all over for a story of him trying to kill another ex wife, no I found nothing. So sense CBN claims Steven as a murderer Id like if people have proof to put it up here that Steven Tyler walks around trying to kill all his ex wives off.

    Of course understand I am not defending him. The guy is a recovering drug addict and considering the fact he married his teen 16 year old wife and I think hes had multiple wives at a time, hes probably a sick perverted sex addict like me except I don't commit sex crimes. Its sick, hes a pervert.

    But why make up all this other stuff about him with that? His ex girlfriend who was 16 when she married him was on a talk show and she is a prolife Christian now and even she said some of what they said is not true.

    My theory is this. I think CBN and Christian entertainment guys have a bitter resentment against Steven.
    I saw the story of Aerosmith on tv too.

    Apparently they got a new manager after all the antics and sick drug addiction took the guys over. This manager told them they had to go to treatment and they did. After they got out, he wanted them to clean up the act and record different music that was cleaner. When they did not he told Stevens wife he was out having affairs and they did not clean up the act.

    They were probably out being sex addicts as usual. But my opinion of the manager from what I could tell, I personally think he was a strict Christian who was hoping to convert the band to Christianity and into a Christian and.

    However I am not claiming this as the truth. Its my personal opinion and really I don't know anything. I cant judge anything, I am not God and God is the one who sees what Steven really does.
    SO heres the video let me know your opinions on Steven.

     
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    A lot people will be sleezy scumbags and then display a crucifix around their neck to say "I'm a good guy. See?"
     
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  3. Landon Caeli

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    Aerosmith. Probably one of the most over-rated bands ever... Steven Tyler is a Mick Jagger wannabe.
     
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  4. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    One thing about Tyler, is that he does look pretty young for 70.

    220px-Steven_Tyler_by_Gage_Skidmore_3.jpg
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Mick Jagger has that awesome bad boy garage band sound that nobody can duplicate.

    I do like Tyler's raspy voice however.
     
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    Give a 20-something millions of dollars in a culture obsessed with money and you're bound to get a lot of bad behavior. Especially a male rock-n-roller who grew up in a culture that idolizes the gross decadence of wealth, and that throws money, drugs, and girls at him at every turn. How could he NOT have become addicted to it all? Who wouldn't have? The question to me is why did he even bother marrying those girls? He had dozens available to him, anytime, for free.

    The more amazing thing, to me, is that he did manage to clean up, eventually. Because the odds are high, against that. And he no longer behaves as he once did, even though he still could.

    Then consider those on the other side; ... how shallow and petty they must be to stoop to slander and lies and the condemnation of others just to inflate their own self-righteous religiosity. How pathetic is that!

    Here is one of my favorite performances of his ... honoring Paul McCartney, live, at the Kennedy Center ...

     
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    I think it also holds true for cultures that are opposed to the whole decadence thing. See how the kings and the princes lived and still live in some countries.
     
  8. Riders

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    Oh I agree and I sympathize with Tyler too. My mom was an alcoholic and I grew up in AA> There are a lot of performers actors and rock bands on recovery. Truly its a hard thing not to become a sex addict when a million hot chicks are throwing themselves at you.

    I mean hes only a man and I get that. He did get sober the first time clean and sober and then went back out on pain killers and prescription drugs and I think got sober again several years ago. I am happy for him but he is still probably a sex addict. As a sex addict I understand, there are SAA groups restricted to performers and artists only for that reason.

    However having sex with a 16 year old and living with her is pretty slimy.

    But I agree with you it seems that every time Christian media has something to say about Steven they just tear him up.I still think the first manager who got them into rehab was trying to turn them into a Christian clean band. Then they could tell the world, see even a secular bad old rock band like Aerosmith has turned to God haha.

    But the great thing about that? They fired him and began to produce their own records at which Im sure the old management laughed at but then they started getting even bigger hits BWAHAHA
     
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    Every time I speak of Trumps sex life and prostitutes and porno queens he has affairs with, do you know what my conservative Republican sisters say? Oh well hes a politician all politicians are dirty old men who cares! But if you speak of the dirty old secular rock band living the same way my sister is all EWW devil devil don't let my kids listen to anything that's not Christian with all sexual obscenity going on wow! DEVIL!
     
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    YUCK! I saw him in 98, Aerosmith concert and I thought he looked old then.
     
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    All men become dirty old men or want to be, the only ones that complain about their behaviour is women and guys who weren't as successful at the mating game and are just jealous. The ones who deny it are either liars, homosexuals, or both. :)
     
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    Well I like a few of their songs, Walk This Way being my fvaorite Sweet Emotion and Angel right up there.They are good but not great, they had a few great songs, butt hen again they are not as near good as The Rolling Stones .The Stones rock!
     
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    I've heard guys talk like that. The men in SAA who have lost everything including their wives and money over sex will tell you different. They learn to be sober, to not have affairs, so not all men are rabid adulterers.
    Some go without sex, not everyone wants to have sex.

    Of course some of these dirty old men learn to look at porn or see strip tease artists instead of having affairs and some wives will give permission or turn their heads when guys look at porn too so.
     
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    Of course its different when you talk about rock artists and performers. I have heard some wives will give their men special permission for their husbands to have illicit sex while on the road and while traveling doing concerts only.

    Then when they go home they stay true,So some folks walk into this knowing there are issues and learn to handle it in their own way.

    Of course in todays age, we have swinging and Polyamory relationships which has become very popular too. I know, I use to Poly groups. I never went to a swingers party but have been invited.

    Swingers claim they are their together at the partys and only swing together so this is how they stay married. Polys usually have relationships with more then one person and quite often both the man and woman gets to have different lovers and relationships so its not sexist.

    Some women will be true to their poly guy while he has his way with women, but I did have a few dates with a married man in that situation. But his Wife Barbara had her rules, she had to be able to meet the woman and give her consent, if she did not he would not go.
    She had permission to go out and travel and be on her own when she wanted to ,so it was an agreement. Me and her are still friends.
     
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    This is why Steven Tyler can never beat Mick Jagger.:
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    And for anyone who appreciates Mick Jaggers facial expressions as much as I do :):

     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Steve is fairly overrated. Joe Perry is the rock in that band.
     
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    Mick Jagger is truly the baddest and the best.



     
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    But you know not everyone has that problem. If it were that he had no choice like you said it would be one thing. But trully there are options he could have taken to stop it. According to what I read he had several girlfriends all over the place
    and did not marry any of them and lied to them about having other girlfriends. There are ways oif dealing with it that he did not take.

    If you look at my Van Halen thread, of Van Halen and his brother were alcoholics and sadly Eddy Van Halen is probably still on cocaine though his been treated several times. AT one time he did have some sobriety.

    But I saw an interview Valerie Bertinelli and read about her divorce in Wiki. Wiki states her reason for divorce BTW which did not happen into 2007 was because of cocaine addiction. but they were married 26 years man! AFter 21 years they separated but man they kept it together along time. Valerie Bertinelli said that sex and women did not enter any problems for them.
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    In the bio of Van Halen it said 2 things about women and Van Halen. before he married Valerie He had tons of women and David Lee Roth and his brother were sex addicts. But one time they said all the guys had problems with women and then another time they said Valerie Bertinelli after she married him traveled with him and went back stage with him did drugs and even talked to groupies , of course Valerie's a tough girl!

    So either one or 2 things happened. Either he took her on the road and stayed true because he had her; Or he went on having his women but with her permission. So the idea that all men are dirty men is not an excuse. There are ways to deal with it without going behind the back.

    You can get married and have a Poly relationship or special permission to have sex while on tour only. So there are men who deal with it.

    I also know that Joey from New Kids On The BLock his wife also gravels with them, and they've been married forever too.There are a some male entertainers who stay married. Grant it its a big problem but it can be handled.
     
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    We all could have lived differently from how we did. We all could have lived better lives, and treated other people better than we did. I don't see where you're trying to go with this. Steven Tyler is who he is and has lived as he's lived. So what? So are we all, and so have we all. I really don't see anything positive to be gained by passing judgment on what we imagine to be another person's sins, especially when we're doing it based on here-say. Why is any of this any business of ours?
     
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    Aah, Steve Tyler. I was not the only one that noticed that he really loved the young stuff:

     
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