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Star Wars vs Lord of the Rings
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Very well.
*sheathes sword*
Shadow Wolf
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Game of Thrones borrows heavily from real life stuff, and is a "fantasy light." Lord of the Rings draws more heavily from Norse tales and mythology for it's creatures races, and also other mythologies here and there, and is a proper high fantasy story.
Game of Thrones would likely still be Game of Thrones without Lord of the Rings.
I know. I was just joking around.
Shadow Wolf
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Star Wars is basically cowboys and ninjas in space.
Lord of the Rings is elves and wizards and dwarves and goblins and trolls and is really really really really long and drawn out but at least the movies are very pretty.
I'd prefer Lord of the Rings
But Star Trek and Game of Thrones over them both.
Lord of the Rings is elves and wizards and dwarves and goblins and trolls and is really really really really long and drawn out but at least the movies are very pretty.
I'd prefer Lord of the Rings
But Star Trek and Game of Thrones over them both.
Parts of the Silmarillion were jammed into The Hobbit movies as well but really I think nobody wants to try and turn it into a movie because it reads like a cross between a textbook and a furniture assembly manual. To say it's dry is to say the Sahara is dry. You'd have to basically do the dirty that was done to World War Z. Make it barely related to the book just to give it some pacing. And a narrative arch.
I'm hoping it gets revisited by someone after the books are done. The directors clearly didn't know what to do with the story once they departed from the book material.
Shadow Wolf
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That I think about sums it up. Even the Lord of the Rings required great creative liberties to make them not so dry, not so drawn out, not so much poking about and rambling, and cut enough to make it into three 3 hour movies instead of 30 hour movies. The Silmarillion, I don't doubt it could ever be done, it would just take an exceptionally talented story teller to do so.
Shadow Wolf
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It's good. However, most people predicted it wrong and it turned out everyone's would be hero is actually mad, crazy, and blood thirsty and everyone was told straight up they lusted for vengence when they cheered on what they thought was justice.
*Spoilers*
That wasn't my issue. The setup for that payoff could have used more time to feel earned (from never took any innocent life to Embodiment of Hitler-Satan in one episode), but it wasn't unexpected. It was the rest of the characters acting really out of character that bugged me (Tyrion took stupid pills all season, as did varys (let me, the spymaster, just write my treason down here in my room)
The night king was killed too soon and in a cliche manner that had no consequence. Bran becoming king had no setup and took an arsepull speech to jam in there.
The night king was killed too soon and in a cliche manner that had no consequence. Bran becoming king had no setup and took an arsepull speech to jam in there.
Shadow Wolf
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They ended it about as Martin told them he was ending the books.
I doubt the setup is going to be the same, or even the same characters made it where they would go. He was vague in details but did specify the ending would be got to very differently.
Shadow Wolf
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That was the conclusion of him being the Three Eyed Raven and seeing and knowing all. The perfect ruler, basically. I agree things moved a long very quickly, but it was basically seven seasons all building up to one chaotic battle against the dead on one front with the final battles against the living also happening on the other front. Winter and the dead crept along, but when they showed up they hit hard and fast.
He's had such communications before, such as his back-and-forths with Jorah Mormont.
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Oof that's sacrilege in the circles I run in
In saying that, I haven't dabbled in High Fantasy since Brent Weeks. It's all hoity toity snooty classics and non fiction at the moment for me. But I'm having a rather nostalgic pull as of late. I want some Star Wars and I wants some Tolkien. I thought it'd be fun to see the two golden boys duke it out, as it were
See, I like Brent Weeks. Though all I know is the Night Angel Trilogy.
Moral ambiguity for the win!
See, you sound like a low fantasy dude. A high fantasy guy would have said...
*Sheathes Dragonsbane, his mighty broadsword +2*
Milton Platt
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I like them both. One is fantasy, the other science fiction. Two different genres.
Shadow Wolf
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Game of Thrones has very little magic, all the humanoids are human, and it largely and mostly lacks the things that turn non-nerds off and away from a more proper high fantasy, such as the Forgotten Realms.
Shadow Wolf
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No, no, no! Nein, iea, no, non, nihil, όχι, 没有, ghobe!
The proper high fantasy chick spends two hours doing make up to play a high fantasy character race, has all sorts of glowing props around her to represent magic buffs and shields, and holds a latex foam sword in one hand that is said to be blazing with fire, cloth spell packet that is said to be lightning arcs emitting from her bands in the other, and demands your quest be one to preserve order and the natural balance or face the wrath of the god of magic and the high god of balance themselves through their chosen champion who stands before you. She's also wearing prosthetic elf ears, has memorized her entire spell book, and has roughed out all sorts of weather to do it.