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Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by Serpent Child, Feb 3, 2017.

  1. Serpent Child

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    I don't know what to think about the link below but I'd like to discuss it. What do you think about the article/link below that claims Satanism is mankind's original & only religion?
    I think its basically saying Sanatana Dharma = Satanism, that Sanat is an anagram for Satan, that Zeus and Dionysus is Satan, etc. But note its REALLY long and has sources of its own:

    Spiritual Satanism Is Mankind's Original And Only Religion : JoS Newsletter
     
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  2. JayaBholenath

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    Um. No.

    Sanatana is sanskrit word for eternal.
    Please don't spread misconceptions about my religion.

    Aum Namah Shivaya
     
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    I think you are exploring something similar to Left Hand Path of the western religions. From what I am told it isn't the same as Satanism despite similarities. The Easterns do not like being called Left Hand Path, or the Satanists don't like being confused with easterners. Something like that. There is a Dir for LHP and a section in Hinduism for Saivism. Two separate Dirs because they consider themselves to be separate groups.
     
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    Or mine.

    Zeus and Dionysus are not Satan or have anything to do with any Abrahamic concepts. Zeus and Dionysus are also not the same Beings! Hellenismos has no "Satan" figure or concept. It is not dualistic.

    Joy of Satan is just a stupid neo-Nazi cult that says that Satan is a blond haired, blue eyed alien living on another planet that communicates with his followers using telepathy, and that this alien hates Jews and loves Hitler and Himmler. Please don't associate my beliefs with that, thank you. That would be offensive to the Gods.
     
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  5. Electus de Lumine

    Electus de Lumine Magician of Light

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    Given the story of Prometheus and Zeus it seems far more likely to me that Zeus is Yahweh and Prometheus is Lucifer.
     
  6. Serpent Child

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    I know how people feel when others claim their Gods are associated with or are Satanic but I'm not saying that, I know the reputation Joy of Satan has. I simply asked for others to read it and tell me what they think, dismiss it simply as that if you want. ❤️
     
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    Prometheus and Phanes are also seen as Satan.
     
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    Zeus is an Indo-European deity, Yahweh is a Semitic deity, Prometheus is a Titan and Lucifer is the Son of Aurora, the Goddess of the Dawn, the personification of the planet Venus. They have nothing to do with your Abrahamic concepts. That's just facts.
     
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  9. Electus de Lumine

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    What about Zeus is analogous to the Light Bringer?
     
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    Electus de Lumine Magician of Light

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    I view them as different versions of similar things. After all both of our religions have a common root in the proto-Indo European religion.
     
  11. Saint Frankenstein

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    Again, They have nothing to do with Abrahamic concepts.
     
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    Satanism has nothing to do with Indo-European religion. It's a reactionary Abrahamic offshoot.
     
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    Electus de Lumine Magician of Light

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    It is a good thing that I am not a Satanist then is it?
     
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    Luciferianism is also not an Indo-European religion. It's a new religious movement.
     
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    "This is the same with Zeus Dionysus. Dionysus who is Satan as I have wrote about many times. Is called the Second Zeus because he is the reborn and perfected Zeus. Just as Skanda is called the second Siva for the same reason. The Greeks came right from Helladiva which is today Sri Lanka [who still worship Siva]. To the point ancient Greece is nothing but transplanted India in Europe. The original God Korous in the primordial Greek period before the destruction of their civilization at the time of the end of Crete. Which marks their decline and loss of cultural knowledge. Korous later became Zeus. Korous is shown naked, the symbol of rebirth. This is important because Korous is perfectly described as the same way Skanda-Siva is. And Krisna as well. Who is the another version of Skanda-Siva in the North of which I have shown in articles. When we go back to Korous and primordial Hellas, we can see clearly this is the fact. There are still ancient Serpentine Lingham stones all over Greece from their Pagan sacred centers. When the Greek army stopped in Sri Lanka sailing on their way home after the end of Alexander's campaign. They openly worshipped Siva-Skanda as Zeus-Dionysus.

    The Bible in the book of revelations openly states Satan is the God Zeus-Dionysus,

    Revelation 2:12 "Pergamos. Where Satan's throne is."


    Peragmos was dedicated to the God Zeus [Dionysus] and the altar of the God was also the throne of the God.

    The Pergamon Altar is a massive structure originally built in the 2nd century BC in the Ancient Greek city of Pergamon. The temple was dedicated to the greek god Zeus. The Pergamon Altar was shipped out of the Ottoman Empire from the original excavation site by the German archeological team lead by Carl Humann, and reconstructed in the Pergamon Museum in Berlin in the 19th century, where it can be seen alongside other monumental structures such as the Ishtar Gate from Babylon." - Spiritual Satanism Is Mankind's Original And Only Religion : JoS Newsletter

    Thats one of the places where it talks about that in the link...
     
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    It is an interesting concept.

    I see myself as the original & only religion.
    I need no defining, i am who i am.

    Perhaps the others can be more helpful with the history and language end of it.
    I am however, very familiar with the spiritual concepts, if you would like to move in that direction.
     
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    Luciferianism had already existed as a branch-off from Gnostic thought in it's prime. the Gnostics had their roots in Judaism which was influenced by Indo-European religion. In any case the age of a religion or the fact that it came from another does not inherently make it right or wrong. After-all your religion has known origins in many other religions that the Greeks pulled from.
     
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    This would be helpful if I did not have a greater understanding of greek religion than the author and if I did not think that Yahweh is unable to predict the future and thus lied to his flock with promises of an end times.
     
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  19. Saint Frankenstein

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    I didn't say that Luciferianism was "right or wrong". I don't care if someone is a Luciferian or a Satanist. Many of my friends are. What I care about is people spreading misconceptions and misinformation, period.

    Judaism is a Semitic religion and I'm not sure if it's correct to refer to certain Gnostic groups as Luciferian.
     
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    You misunderstand, Gnostic groups are of course not Luciferian but it is where we have our origin.

    And the Semitic religions are descended from the Proto-Indo European ones.
     
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