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Spirit, or Consciousnesses not of this Earth

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. Fool

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    would a Spirit, Consciousness not of this earth have an experience that wasn't some how physical to them?


    is physical only an earthly thing? are things of the mind absolutely non-physical? is the mind totally inactive?
     
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    at the buffet of life let medicine be your food and your food be medicine, given it is a banquet of affliction [bread of sorrow and all that fare]
     
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    All of the evidence we have thus far indicates that the mind is a product of a physical brain. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that a mind can exist without a physical brain.
     
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  4. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    I see that is correct.

    Spirit or soul are external to the body. It is that God given spirit that powers the brain, provides the electrical Impulses.

    Regards Tony
     
  5. Fool

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    electrical impulses don't require a brain.


    electromagnetic spectrum is fundamental to all bodies


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    You are correct, electrical impulses to not require a brain. And electrical impulses all on their own do not create a mind. It's only electrical impulses firing in a physical brain that creates a mind state. If I'm wrong, please provide an example of a mind existing without a physical brain.
     
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    orthodox science doesn't have the ability to control consciousness. there in lies the trouble of proof. if it could, it would be god.


    parapsychology has all kinds of proof that a brain is not necessary for intelligence.


    Parapsychology
     
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    Actually scientists can affect consciousness in a number of different ways. Simply adding certain chemicals can radically affect a person's consciousness.
     
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    sorry, corrected it. works now
     
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    Yes there is in Near Death Experiences.
     
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    Did you bother to read what the link you provided says? There is absolutely NOTHING in the article that claims a brain is not necessary for intelligence. In fact, it makes it pretty clear that the study of 'parapsychology' has not been able to meet the basic requirements of the scientific method. The quote below is from the link you provided.

    Parapsychology: Fact and Fiction
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    Critics of parapsychology cite a lack of robust evidence of true paranormal activity and difficulty repeating apparent findings. They also argue that parapsychologists have not been able to rule out all natural explanations for the phenomena they study.

    While historical demonstrations and notions about psychic phenomena have often been shown to be false, contemporary parapsychologists have sought to use the scientific method to test their hypotheses with empirical evidence. Nevertheless, even some of the most high-profile research into apparent psychic phenomena has been challenged due to methodological concerns.
     
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    A NDE is the experience reported by a person with a physical brain after that physical brain was near death. In what way do you think that NDEs are an example of a mind existing without a physical brain?
     
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    I'm not quite sure what you are asking but will do my best to answer. You need a physical body to experience a physical world. :)
     
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