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Featured spirit of antichrist is in the world today

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by kjw47, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. kjw47

    kjw47 Well-Known Member

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    We all shall see soon.
     
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    God is king of eternity, Jesus had to be appointed as king, but for 1000 years, then he has to hand the kingdom back to his God and father and subject himself( 1Cor 15:24-28)( as all created beings do)
    Yes he had authority but was not king yet.
     
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    you cannot even understand milk. that is a deep subject--learn milk first, then delve into deeper matters.
     
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    I didn't think you knew the answer!
     
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    144,00 is literal--the great multitude is not promised heaven anywhere.
     
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    Jesus speaking of the dead John the Baptizer said--the least one in heaven is greater than him. Jesus said John the Baptizer--no man ever born of woman was greater than he( not including Jesus)
    Fact--God created mortals to live on the earth forever. One just needs to know God and his will.
     
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    I would have to study up on it. But there will be no sense doing that for one who rejects every truth shown to him.
     
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    Mister Silver Faith's Nightmare

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    No, we won't.

    You're not the first, and you won't be the last, to make that comment as though you knew for certain.
     
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    Many failed to realize that the two horned beast of Rev 13 had to be in place--Rev 13 has been going on for many years now. I truly believe Rev 16 has begun now. This world will not like the conclusion it brings.
     
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    Jesus real teachers get Holy spirit guiding them into all truth--at the proper time.
     
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    Really, He wasn't King until 1914?

    Luke 19:37-38 (ESV Strong's) the whole multitude of his disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen, 38 saying, “Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord!

    John 1:49 (ESV Strong's) 49 Nathanael answered him, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!”

    John 12:13 (ESV Strong's) 13 So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, “Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel!”

    John 12:15 (ESV Strong's) 15 “Fear not, daughter of Zion; behold, your king is coming, sitting on a donkey's colt!”

    1 Timothy 6:14-16 (ESV Strong's) 14 to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which he will display at the proper time—he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.
     
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    But until then, they get to teach from their own reason and logic, right? Isn't that why they have to make so many "corrections"? Why don't they just wait for the truth to come?
     
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    Who do you personally perceive to be the two horned beast? If you say the beast has to be in place for Rev 16 to be starting, that means the beast must be in place, correct? Who is that beast?
     
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    How can you say "truth" like what you say is final authority? Don't you mean, 'your version' of the truth?
     
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    You cannot possibly verify that.

    With any kind of serious Bible study, one needs to look at all options, only discounting those that are defied by other scriptures or historical events. In this case, I can guarantee you that there is no possible way you can discount 144,000 being symbolic, and every theologian that I have read feels that it is most likely that.
     
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    Are you saying your "real teachers" are wrong kjw47?

    *** w50 11/15 p. 462 Fraudulent Religious Relics ***
    All error and lies are of the Devil and are certainly a great reproach and dishonor to God. (John 8:44; Rom. 1:25) Consequently, Jehovah is against all such pious frauds that teach lies in His name and He will clean them out at Armageddon.

    *** w13 7/15 p. 8 par. 19 “Tell Us, When Will These Things Be?” ***
    We first considered that the great tribulation did not begin in 1914

    *** w13 7/15 p. 8 par. 19 “Tell Us, When Will These Things Be?” ***
    Then, we reviewed why Jesus’ judgment of the sheep and the goats did not begin in 1914

    *** w13 7/15 p. 8 par. 19 “Tell Us, When Will These Things Be?” ***
    Finally, we examined why Jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919

    Your "real teachers" claim that "all error" is of the devil, the above quotes are errors, so which table does that put your "real teachers" eating from?
     
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    But nobody knows if what was written by The Holy Spirit originally said, "the least one IS AS GREAT AS" the greatest person born of a woman. Isn't it true that there is no one greater or lesser in the Kingdom of Heaven?
     
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    I suppose if you and the governing body are wrong, Jesus will be so very sorry he ever said Matthew 24:45.
     
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    My guess is that making Jesus unhappy is just about the most extreme foolish thing a person might do.
     
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    The bible is clear--Jesus is appointed for 1000 years as king. Gods kingdom would be ruling the earth if he were king back then. I see him as king, just as they did. But he wasn't actually king until he received his crown at Rev 6
     
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