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Featured spirit of antichrist is in the world today

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by kjw47, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. savagewind

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    Through time the Jehovah's Witnesses are not united in thought. That is 100% fact.
     
  2. savagewind

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    Oh, let's see!
    The Bible in common.
    Creation in common.
    The ten commandments in common.
    Meeting together in common.
    Good works in common.
    Obedience to God in common.
    Belief in the judgment in common.
    Confessing sins in common.
    Bring up the children to believe in God in common.
    Being modest in common.
     
  3. savagewind

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    How do you know that the white horse doesn't picture God's words that people hear?
     
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    We know that Judas knew righteousness but didn't follow through.
    We know that some faithful men have deviated from doing God's will to do what they thought best.

    Revelation 6:2

    The horse pictures the commands of God to do. The rider is doing things his own way.

    But, to do the will of God every step must be for the perfect will of God to do.
     
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    Do you really believe that it is God's will for the people to trust that something which is not true is true?
     
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    This is a real question wishing for a real answer, please. @kjw47 @Deeje
     
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    Very good question savagewind!

    I'd like to rephrase it, if I could,

    Witnesses, do you believe it is God's will for you to accept everything the slave says, knowing (God) a teaching is wrong, until He/God deems the "proper time" for you to be fed the right food?
     
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    The Bible does not say what the white horse means. To be teaching your thoughts on what the white horse means is to go beyond the things that are written. 1 Corinthians 4:6 To go beyond what is written is arrogance against God's Word.
    James 4:10. It is actually ok to say, "I do not know!".
     
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    You can.....and you do. Bravo!
     
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    Oh look...a mutual admiration society.... I will let time tell you everything you need to know.


    None of the above. Not even close.
     
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    You will let time? There you have it, folks! They think they are Jehovah.




    I didn't say their perspective is the same. Did I?
    "In common" means of joint interest. It doesn't mean identical.
     
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    I think that you are not paying much attention.
     
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    I should probably provide another reason for saying the Jehovah's Witnesses think that they are Jehovah.
    If a person leaves them it is being said about the person that he or she has "left Jehovah".
     
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    Yet, you claim God created Adam to live forever. God is going to annihilate something He created to live forever, go figure.

    I don't believe that "hell" is an eternal "fiery torment", the Bible says that death and hades are cast into the lake of fire, think of it as Alcatraz, it's a prison that sits off shore and surround by water. That's where hell is, in the middle of a fiery lake, with no way out, eternally separated from God
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    Your non-paid governing body, sure have some expensive suits and watches for not having any money. I guess they save their meager $125 a month to buy those things!

    Really, no hierarchy?

    orgchart.jpg

    Deeje, kjw47, or anyone, notice anything odd about this chart? I'll give you a hint, it's why the "real teachers" have to keep making corrections.
     
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    Witnesses are not "more perfect than anyone else", BUT, you will not find any other GLOBAL body of Christians as PERFECT as witnesses! If EVERYONE was a witness, the world would be PERFECT!

    Why did you go from "beliefs" to "doctrines"? Beliefs and doctrines aren't the same, correct?

    Witnesses hold many of the same beliefs as Christendom, they have different doctrines, but the same beliefs.
     
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    And exactly how can you be certain they or the HS is "confused" and you're not?

    Interpretations can vary, and to declare one's own interpretation as being rock-solid while all other interpretations supposedly are "confused" is simply an arrogance we don't need any more of. Anyone who has ever spent any time in scriptural studies well knows that two intelligent people can read the same narrative but come out with differing interpretations.
     
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    I know exactly what it says. Jesus presence began in 1914--invisible--he did not physically come to the earth. At the 2nd ride of the white horse. Jesus comes leading Gods armies, Gods kingdom rule is with him.
     
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    I would disagree--there are some fake JW,s as well.
     
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