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spirit of antichrist is in the world today

kjw47

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They should pay closer attention to what Jesus says, maybe they wouldn't have to keep making "corrections".


You must have missed this bible warning---Be like the Boreans and keep on making sure of all things---God wouldn't gave that warning if errors didn't get in. Correcting errors found is very wise. You condemn it in your darkness.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
@kjw47 If John the Baptist were to be called to Heaven (after Jesus made the way for him to do so!) and he was being taught by the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses and obeying them as you believe he should he wouldn't go!

Now think! WHO in your mind would take it upon himself to block the way to Heaven?
 

kjw47

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Matthew 25:41 (ESV Strong's) 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

It doesn't say, "the lake of fire" it says the, "eternal fire" which is Gehenna, you know, the valley of Hinnom, that burned continuously. The same place sinners will go,

Matthew 5:30 (ESV Strong's) For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.


In both cases--Eternal fire--lake of fire--Fire = destruction. Gods justice scales make eternal suffering be Impossible. Gods justice scales have perfect balance, uncorruptable. He applies those scales in all of his dealings-Deuteronomy 32:4
It was symbolism for the value of what each one lost by going into the lake of Fire-- As each new day dawns in Gods kingdom, those miss each new dawning day-eternally, it never stops. God is not a sadist. God is Love.
 

kjw47

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@kjw47 If John the Baptist were to be called to Heaven (after Jesus made the way for him to do so!) and he was being taught by the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses and obeying them as you believe he should he wouldn't go!

Now think! WHO in your mind would take it upon himself to block the way to Heaven?



The bible teaches no one who died before Jesus gets to go to heaven. So God blocked their way.
 

Rick B

Active Member
Premium Member
You're asking something he isn't capable of doing, they're not programmed for that!

You would think that for someone like @kjw47 who claims to be a true follower of God that he would have a more sensitive conscience. Instead it appears that it is seared. 1 Timothy 4:2
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
You must have missed this bible warning---Be like the Boreans and keep on making sure of all things---God wouldn't gave that warning if errors didn't get in. Correcting errors found is very wise. You condemn it in your darkness.

If telling yourself that makes you sleep better at night, I guess more power to ya!

The Jews in Berea were searching the scripture to see if what Paul and Silas said was true because it was the first time they heard their teaching.

Acts 17:10-11 (ESV Strong's) 10 The brothers immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea, and when they arrived they went into the Jewish synagogue. 11 Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

You can make all the excuses you want for your false teachers, if God is giving the words, He's not going to let it be taught wrong!
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Who bought them?


Bought with Jesus' blood--these are the little flock,( Luke 12:32) the anointed, the bride of Christ. These will rule as kings and priests on thrones alongside of Jesus helping separate the sheep and goats during the tribulation and even help judge, even the fallen angels. Rev 20. Rev 1:6
 

djhwoodwerks

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It says 144,000 are bought from the earth-Rev 14:3-- 1Cor 10:12

1 Corinthians 6:18-20 (ESV Strong's) Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

1 Corinthians 7:23-24 (ESV Strong's) You were bought with a price; do not become bondservants of men. 24 So, brothers, in whatever condition each was called, there let him remain with God.

Every Christian is bought! Did Jesus pay the ransom for you? You were bought from the earth too!
 

Milton Platt

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All can see worldwide the division that the spirit of antichrist is causing in mortal hearts. Even in those who are told they are Christian. 33,000 religions claiming to be Christian--one is Christian, 32,999 are not. There is no division with Jesus( 1Cor 1:10)--the problem I see is that 32,999 of those religions are NOT teaching what Jesus actually taught--they are being paid to teach that religions brand of dogma.
Hearts are being filled with hatred by those who cause division. STOP believing the blind guides. Learn and apply all that Jesus taught--it is Gods will( Matt 7:21).
Here is an ultra important truth Jesus taught us----- Matthew 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added to you.= ultra important that a mortals heart instructs their minds daily to do this. The true followers hearts do just that without fail.
Another super important truth from Jesus---Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT--year after year and one still remembers new points--The real teachers of Jesus makes 100% sure this is accomplished by the Flock. All know if their teachers teach these two super truths.

So has said virtually every generation since the supposed death of Jesus.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The bible teaches no one who died before Jesus gets to go to heaven. So God blocked their way.
The Bible does not say that! It says that when they died they did not go to Heaven.

You believe Jehovah by Jesus Christ can and will resurrect people to the Earth.
You are being taught that Jehovah and Jesus won't resurrect some people to Heaven!

Please prove to yourself and to us that the Bible really teaches that no one who died before Jesus died can be resurrected to Heaven.

I understand that it is written that they didn't get resurrected to Heaven when they died. Now you have the task to prove that Jehovah will not resurrect anyone who died before Jesus died to Heaven.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
You would think that for someone like @kjw47 who claims to be a true follower of God that he would have a more sensitive conscience. Instead it appears that it is seared. 1 Timothy 4:2

Yes, you would think so, but, they claim to imitate Jesus and Jesus called the religious people of His day names and was sarcastic to them. If He can do it, so can they!
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Bought with Jesus' blood--these are the little flock,( Luke 12:32) the anointed, the bride of Christ. These will rule as kings and priests on thrones alongside of Jesus helping separate the sheep and goats during the tribulation and even help judge, even the fallen angels. Rev 20. Rev 1:6
What you are being taught is that a bought one can be lost.
You are also being taught like the Catholics were taught for many years that the Bible is not for the average person.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
@kjw47 You are being taught that Judas was one of the 144,000 before even a way was made to Heaven.
Do you not understand that all of the 144,000 are creatures of The Heaven?
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
The bible teaches no one who died before Jesus gets to go to heaven. So God blocked their way.

My word, you are so deceived, you don't even know what the Bible really teaches. Please look things up before you go and make a fool of yourself!

Matthew 8:11-12 (ESV Strong's) 11 I tell you, many will come from east and west and recline at table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven, 12 while the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Did Abraham, Issac and Jacob die before Jesus? And please don't say that verse is not talking about actual heaven, because it says, "in the kingdom of HEAVEN", not the kingdom of God.
 
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