Audie
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Welll that is not how I meant it but never mind.
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Spin the Wheel
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Welll that is not how I meant it but never mind.
Could it be confirmation bias that you were referring to?
Audie
Veteran Member
Kind of but this is kind of a weird statement-
They can be verified quite easily. All the major religions I believe originated from the same Source
It appears to say that believing something is
what verifies it.
Spartan
Well-Known Member
There's one for which there is compelling evidence.
The Odds of Eight Messianic Prophecies Coming True - Berean Publishers
It does appear to say something like that, though it could be read as the major religions springing from the same origin, I suppose.
Still, the circular argument you propose as a definition is not an uncommon means of sustaining belief and I see it used by many on here whether they realize it or not.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Where did you come up with your criteria as to which religions could possibly be correct?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
7 billion religions or 7 billion gods?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Not all religions are what you described.
The Baha'i Faith has none of the above.
Wait... finding the correct one was the point?
Hmm. I guess I missed the memo...
Hmm. I guess I missed the memo...
Religions ... every person, generally, when you boil it down, has a slightly different perspective than the next person. But that's nitpicking. So it depends on how you want to classify religions.7 billion religions or 7 billion gods?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
True.
Well, personally I would recommend the Book of Mormon, and I've read from many religions.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Because they can't all be right, considering many of them, if not all of them, are mutually exclusive.
In that sense, at best one can be correct.
They can all be wrong though.
Or perhaps God created the entire universe and everything it contains only 5 seconds ago with all of us having (false) memories of having lived our entire lives on a planet with a fake history.
I can make up such unfalsifiable what-if's too....
No, flowers evolved through the natural process of evolution.
No gods or bio-pixies required.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
And that would be an observation too...
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
It's also true that it is very detrimental to other people.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
How about when I masturbate? Am I then serving "the god of masturbation"?
I think that is far to vague and to general.
I can easily imagine circumstances where such would not be the way to go. Or where it simply could not be the way to go.
Starting with my own neighbour, who's literally the most arrogant douche I've ever met.
No, I don't "love" that guy. Not as I love myself and not even as I love nasty mosquito's.
Not that I want him dead. Not that I "hate" him. But I wouldn't mind him moving to the other side of the world, just to know that I couldn't possibly be further away from him then that.
I also don't love my enemies. I think loving your enemies is a pretty stupid thing to do.
I don't love nazi's. I don't love islamist terrorists. I don't love communists. I don't love Kim Jong Un.
Do you love these people? If yes, then I find that quite disturbing.
Off course you do.... it's actually a religious requirement for you to think / believe that, isn't it?
Spoken like a true bible believer who's unable to put on some other shoes once in a while, even if only as a thought experiment.
the rodent
New Member
How about when I masturbate? Am I then serving "the god of masturbation"?
I think that is far to vague and to general.
I can easily imagine circumstances where such would not be the way to go. Or where it simply could not be the way to go.
Starting with my own neighbour, who's literally the most arrogant douche I've ever met.
No, I don't "love" that guy. Not as I love myself and not even as I love nasty mosquito's.
Not that I want him dead. Not that I "hate" him. But I wouldn't mind him moving to the other side of the world, just to know that I couldn't possibly be further away from him then that.
I also don't love my enemies. I think loving your enemies is a pretty stupid thing to do.
I don't love nazi's. I don't love islamist terrorists. I don't love communists. I don't love Kim Jong Un.
Do you love these people? If yes, then I find that quite disturbing.
Off course you do.... it's actually a religious requirement for you to think / believe that, isn't it?
Spoken like a true bible believer who's unable to put on some other shoes once in a while, even if only as a thought experiment.
I was wondering, since you go by the name "atheist", what that actually means. Do you consider yourself to be a god ? I ask this because you make your own self-perceived authoritative judgements. So, who do you have to look to but yourself ? God set the stars in their positions and in the older days before mankind set their own satellites in the sky, they referenced those positions that didn't change to navigate the oceans. So how do you navigate, when by definition of your name "atheist", there is nothing beyond you ?
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
What what actually means?
I believe myself to be a human. Which is a biological creature who's ancestors evolved on this planet from common ancestors with the other living things.
I don't believe in gods.
I have no other choice. I can't "borrow" the brain computing power of another human to run my arguments through. That is, if I understand what you are saying.
If what you're saying is not that I'm doing my own thinking, then I don't know what you are saying.
In what context?
I can look to many people in my life (for support, for love, for consoling if needed, etc): family and friends.
Stars are where they are because of things like gravitational forces.
Except that they do change (over time) since the universe isn't static and the position of the earth relative to the visible stars in the night sky is not fixed at all. "fixed" as in "constant". Math allows you to calculate the position of stars relative to the earth on any given date, but the only reason we can do that is because things like gravity are deterministic.
In any case: if you look to the night sky, the stars and constellations you see are in different positions then they were on the same night 5000 years ago.
I use a GPS.
Why would I need anything "beyond me" to navigate?
What does "beyond me" even mean in that context?
And how does anyting in this post tie back to the points I raised in the post you are replying to?
the rodent
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I was hoping my questions would give you some room for thought.
You said in your response that you are a human and described that as a human evolving. So, at what point do you come of age and become a human being ?
These people that claim to evolve do so at the expense of all the generations before them, and declare themselves superior. But if you claim to evolve, the other side of that is devolving, which is what you are open too with that belief.
You said in your response that you are a human and described that as a human evolving. So, at what point do you come of age and become a human being ?
These people that claim to evolve do so at the expense of all the generations before them, and declare themselves superior. But if you claim to evolve, the other side of that is devolving, which is what you are open too with that belief.