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Spanish is a bigoted language

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by Landon Caeli, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    With Spanish, male and female attributes are core essentials in communication. A lot is based on 'status' and 'hierarchy'. With that, those who speak Spanish are trapped in a hierarchical paradigm for life. Which prevents progress, and enables machismo, which leads to corruptive tendencies to the core.

    Do you agree or disagree?
     
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  2. Altfish

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    I knew about male and female, that's common in many European languages but didn't realise about this 'status' and 'hierarchy' you refer to; can you give me an example or two.

    Thanks
     
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  3. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Im sorry, I didn't mean male/female, I meant masculine/femanine.

    ...I'll present more detail soon.
     
  4. bobhikes

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    That's typical in most languages but it probably does on some level promote male dominance.
     
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  5. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    Btw you should include Italian and Portuguese and many others too...
     
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    I still don't care about the status quo or any hierarchy, and to answer @Altfish 's question many languages outside of English have different styles of speaking based on the perceived rank or status of the individual you are addressing. And, to not do so would be insulting to the party. This is exceedingly common in many other languages, but one that goes to the extreme is probably Japanese.

    Like it or not the "patriarchy" got us here, and is still kicking *** and taking names. Haters gonna hate, yo.
     
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    Spanish is the only language to give equal rights to inverted question marks though. :cool:
     
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  8. Jainarayan

    Jainarayan ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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    It goes back to Proto-Indoeuropean, the hypothesized ancestor of Indoeuropean languages. Originally the nominal gender system wasn't biological gender. It was a way of classifying nouns, adjectives, pronouns. For some reason I'm not entirely sure of, it morphed into biological gender. Consider that many IE languages have or had a neuter gender, which was purely grammatical. English has a shadow of it with "it" and "they", and their forms. In Sanskrit it's alive and well and used as much as masc. and fem.
     
  9. Estro Felino

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    Can the OP give examples?

    For example...the adjectives?
    Males say estoy contento
    Females say estoy contenta...

    What changes? :)
     
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    I don't speak Spanish, but of those who do, or don't, I see no particular connection to "machismo'. I have observed that Spanish speaking Mexicans do not exhibit machismo, whereas Spanish-speaking Puerto-Ricans, do. I also have observed that Italians and Bosnians that do not speak Spanish exhibit machismo, nevertheless. So I don't think language instigates machismo. I think culture does.
     
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  11. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Disagree, as I do believe most people realize that intrinsic gender-references are just symptomatic of the language based on ancient historical biases. Even in English, for example, God is always used with masculine pronoun, and yet I do believe most people don't believe God has a sex organ.
     
  12. Estro Felino

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    Indeed . That is why English does not have a term for machismo. :)
    Cultural thing. Typical of Mediterranean cultures..in fact Italian has a word too for that...maschilismo.
     
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    Most languages are like that
     
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    Italians are no different.
     
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    Can you give examples? :)
     
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    I learned my Spanish from the Terminator films, like "Hasta la vista, baby", which sounds a bit sexist.
     
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    La palabra "gringo" se puede considerar racista.

     
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    Que tiene que ver con el tema? :)
     
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    Considering there are numerous gendered languages, I have to disagree. And, for a moment if you would, think about your accusations and how the compare the neuter English language and its culture.
    Words are nothing more than sounds we make. They are powerless and meaningless on their own. A language can be no more bigoted than the clash of thunder or roar of a volcano. The speaker, however, does have the ability and power to take those words, charge them with meaning, and use them for good or ill.
     
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  20. Landon Caeli

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    I think alot.
     
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