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Southern Border Crossing for FY2021 Set Record

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by esmith, Oct 24, 2021.

  1. esmith

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    1.7 million migrant border crossing set record FY2021, and this is just the ones that were apphrened by CBP or turned themselves in. There is an article in the Washington Post (pay wall) that says 1000 illegal cross a day and are not apprehended. Reports say that there are more than 2,000 migrants in the caravan, setting off from Tapachula, Mexico –
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    Migrant encounters at southern border just under 200,000 in September, as FY 2021 breaks record
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...258a1e-9302-11eb-9af7-fd0822ae4398_story.html (pay wall)
    Organized migrant caravan moves toward US, surging past Mexican forces

    Guess you Democrats have to get votes somewhere.:p
     
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    Oh no. Not a bunch of people who are eagerly hoping to work productively in my country and make a better life for themselves, and who will pay income taxes but receive almost no government support. Whatever will we do with more laborers, more innovators, more business owners, and more neighbors looking to build up their community and live their lives?

    Oh wait, I'm scared of everyone who doesn't look, think, act, and believe like me. People different from me are weird and icky, and I'm uncomfortable and scared. But wait! I'm super manly so I can't be scared, so instead I will say I'm angry! Yeah, that's better. And then I'll stereotype an entire category of diverse people, because I don't actually know any of them as individuals, which would let me understand that they're just people like anyone else. No no, getting to know them would take work, and empathy, and open-mindedness.

    Easier to sit in my home, frightened and unwilling to learn, grow, or embrace inevitable change, because as long as I'm angry and revile an ethnic caricature, then I get to feel like I'm still special. And it's so much easier to feel strong by punching down at other people than by using my strength to lift everyone up around me. But I'm lazy. I mean, I'm really strong. Look how I voted to take away food stamps again from some poor people. Yeah, whew, I really feel strong and special compared to them. I bet people will finally like me now. Maybe I'll even like myself...
     
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  3. Subduction Zone

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    Republicans are just as much to blame, if not more so.

    Here is an easy question. Why do illegal immigrants come here?
     
  4. Watchmen

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    So you don’t believe that countries should have borders?
     
  5. AlexanderG

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    Huh? Of course I think countries should have borders. Let me guess why you're trying to strawman me with a total non sequitur:

    Do you think that when the dominant political group in a country sees people who don't share their ethnic appearance cross their country's border, then the country should attack them with whips, lock them up and force them to drink water out of toilet bowls and sexually abuse them, and take away their children without keeping records and put those children in cages? All as a pragmatic deterrent?

    Because that's where I bet we actually disagree.
     
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  6. Valjean

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    We've had Mexico on our southern border for a long time. It was only recently, when Republicans realized they could cash in on conservative xenophobia and replacement panic by portraying immigrants as a threat, that this became a major political issue.
     
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  7. Watchmen

    Watchmen Well-Known Member
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    Of course not. I wouldn’t make assumptions if I were. You might look foolish.
     
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    Watchmen Well-Known Member
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    That’s not an answer to my question.
     
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    The answer was implied. Yes, we should have borders. Is the border a problem? It does not appear that way. Republicans do not really believe it. We can tell by the actions that they take.
     
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    Ok. So everyone here is brainwashed by their media of choice rather than thinking for themselves. I guess I was naive to think we could have a real discussion.
     
  11. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Yeah, that applies to us all including you and I in some sense.
     
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    LOL, I hope that you included yourself among the brainwashed.
     
  13. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    I include myself. What about you?
     
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    At times. There is hypocrisy on both sides. The Democrats look forward to when the immigrants become citizens. A high proportion of them do become Democrats. The Republicans are perhaps the biggest cause of illegal immigrants but pretend not to be.
     
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    If only they'd built a decent wall as promised.
     
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    What makes illegal aliens think they deserve a life in America?
     
  17. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    That is one way to ask. There are other ways to go about it though.
     
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    The cracked record continues to revolve, I see. :D
     
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  19. Guitar's Cry

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    What makes a newborn in Iowa think they deserve a life in America?
     
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  20. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry Verisimilitudinous

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    There are times that I lean towards answering this as "No, they shouldn't."
     
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