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Discussion in 'Health & Healing' started by Shaul, Nov 24, 2022.

  1. Shaul

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  2. The Hammer

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    I'd rather wait 3 months, and ensure everyone is covered not just me, myself, and I.
     
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  3. ChristineM

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    The express (euk spit) did mention staff shortages but not the reason for staff shortages.

    The reason is..., thousand of nurses, auxiliary staff and plenty of doctors that were working for the NHS have been forced to leave the UK because of Brexit
     
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    The US model is so much better. No need to wait in any lines. Just accept your death if you don't have the money.
     
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    This world really is in a very sad state :oops:
     
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    That is the Daily Express, they lie like Fox News to get their anti-NHS agenda across.
     
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    But waiting 3 months isn't "being covered". Such delays cause suffering, infirmary and death.
     
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    Frankly I don't care if you don't like the Daily Express. The story itself is credible and typical of stories of delay of treatments which can be found in a variety of sources. So the source is immaterial to the point. There are such delays.
     
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    That shows you don't know the U.S. system. If someone has an emergency medical condition, regardless of ability to pay, you receive treatment. That's the law. A grandfather such as in the story, who presumably would be on Medicare, would receive care without the 3 month delay.
     
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    Perhaps. In America they just straight up deny it.
     
  11. ChristineM

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    Ive checked, there are no other sources from credible news outlets.

    So...

    Ask the NHS
    Guide to NHS waiting times in England

    And the UK government.
    Referral to treatment consultant-led waiting times: rules suite (October 2022)
     
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    I wait just as long for care. My next dental isn't scheduled until April due to availability.

    Again, I'd rather everyone have the opportunity (even if it takes a bit longer) to be seen at some point.
     
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    So you will happily go bankrupt for medical care your insurance or others won't cover?

    Edit: Personally due to preexisting conditions I don't qualify for insurance, not even employer provided. Too sick to be worth it.
     
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    Oh, you mean you think you know how it works.
    Jan. 6 defendant Christopher Worrell reportedly denied cancer treatment in prison
    Steps to Take if Denied Coverage for Cancer Treatment
    Can My Insurance Company Deny Coverage for Cancer Treatment?
    Robert Eads - Wikipedia.
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    And it is NOT true
     
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    Are you sure? Here is a test, if it is credible then unbiased news sources will carry the same story. So why use that one when posting here? It is fine to get ideas from such a source but one should double check them. If you post from an unreliable source why should anyone give it or you any credibility? By using poor sources all of the time you make yourself appear to lack any credibility.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-express/
     
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    Not true. Because of shortages in personnel and the resulting delays, it is very common to not be able to get in to see a specialist within 3 months. My allergist is now booking 6 months ahead and my general care is at about 3 months.

    You can get into see emergency care, that is true. But a cancer diagnosis doesn't count as an emergency. And expect a LONG wait before you see anyone unless you are likely to die within the hour. Also, you will get into serious financial problems if you rely on emergency services for your care (and it is not covered by insurance).
     
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    You are misinterpreting what you read. Getting an initial consultation is not the same as getting needed treatment.
    The British Medical Association reports that over 7 million patients are experiencing a wait for procedures. And that target wait times for cancer treatments have dropped to 60%. 2.87 million patients, and growing, have waited over 18 weeks for treatments.

    NHS backlog data analysis
     
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    Do you know of any US patients reporting needing 30 months for cancer treatment like the man in the article is facing?
     
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    So what? Is everyone getting covered and addressed?

    If yes, then good.
     
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