Sorry, your appointment isn't until June 2025

[Shaul]

A grandfather, who is battling cancer, has been told his hospital appointment will be in June 2025. That's almost 1,000 days.

Granddad who battled cancer given three-year wait for appointment

Another example of national health care system long waits times for needed services.

 

[The Hammer]

I'd rather wait 3 months, and ensure everyone is covered not just me, myself, and I.

 

[ChristineM]

The express (euk spit) did mention staff shortages but not the reason for staff shortages.

The reason is..., thousand of nurses, auxiliary staff and plenty of doctors that were working for the NHS have been forced to leave the UK because of Brexit

 

[Koldo]

A grandfather, who is battling cancer, has been told his hospital appointment will be in June 2025. That's almost 1,000 days.

Granddad who battled cancer given three-year wait for appointment

Another example of national health care system long waits times for needed services.

The US model is so much better. No need to wait in any lines. Just accept your death if you don't have the money.

 

[Vee]

A grandfather, who is battling cancer, has been told his hospital appointment will be in June 2025. That's almost 1,000 days.

Granddad who battled cancer given three-year wait for appointment

Another example of national health care system long waits times for needed services.

This world really is in a very sad state

 

[Altfish]

A grandfather, who is battling cancer, has been told his hospital appointment will be in June 2025. That's almost 1,000 days.

Granddad who battled cancer given three-year wait for appointment

Another example of national health care system long waits times for needed services.

That is the Daily Express, they lie like Fox News to get their anti-NHS agenda across.

 

[Shaul]

I'd rather wait 3 months, and ensure everyone is covered not just me, myself, and I.

But waiting 3 months isn't "being covered". Such delays cause suffering, infirmary and death.

 

[Shaul]

That is the Daily Express, they lie like Fox News to get their anti-NHS agenda across.

Frankly I don't care if you don't like the Daily Express. The story itself is credible and typical of stories of delay of treatments which can be found in a variety of sources. So the source is immaterial to the point. There are such delays.

 

[Shaul]

The US model is so much better. No need to wait in any lines. Just accept your death if you don't have the money.

That shows you don't know the U.S. system. If someone has an emergency medical condition, regardless of ability to pay, you receive treatment. That's the law. A grandfather such as in the story, who presumably would be on Medicare, would receive care without the 3 month delay.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

A grandfather, who is battling cancer, has been told his hospital appointment will be in June 2025. That's almost 1,000 days.

Granddad who battled cancer given three-year wait for appointment

Another example of national health care system long waits times for needed services.

Perhaps. In America they just straight up deny it.

 

[ChristineM]

Frankly I don't care if you don't like the Daily Express. The story itself is credible and typical of stories of delay of treatments which can be found in a variety of sources. So the source is immaterial to the point. There are such delays.

Ive checked, there are no other sources from credible news outlets.

So...

Ask the NHS
Guide to NHS waiting times in England

And the UK government.
Referral to treatment consultant-led waiting times: rules suite (October 2022)

 

[The Hammer]

But waiting 3 months isn't "being covered". Such delays cause suffering, infirmary and death.

I wait just as long for care. My next dental isn't scheduled until April due to availability.

Again, I'd rather everyone have the opportunity (even if it takes a bit longer) to be seen at some point.

 

[The Hammer]

regardless of ability to pay, you receive treatment

So you will happily go bankrupt for medical care your insurance or others won't cover?

Edit: Personally due to preexisting conditions I don't qualify for insurance, not even employer provided. Too sick to be worth it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That shows you don't know the U.S. system. If someone has an emergency medical condition, regardless of ability to pay, you receive treatment. That's the law. A grandfather such as in the story, who presumably would be on Medicare, would receive care without the 3 month delay.

Oh, you mean you think you know how it works.
Jan. 6 defendant Christopher Worrell reportedly denied cancer treatment in prison
Steps to Take if Denied Coverage for Cancer Treatment
Can My Insurance Company Deny Coverage for Cancer Treatment?
Robert Eads - Wikipedia.

Eads was diagnosed with ovarian cancer in 1996, but due to the social stigma faced by transgender individuals, more than a dozen doctors refused to medically treat him on the grounds that taking him on as a patient might harm their practice.[1] When he was finally accepted for treatment in 1997, the cancer had "already metastasized to other parts of the body, rendering any further treatments futile."[1

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[Altfish]

Frankly I don't care if you don't like the Daily Express. The story itself is credible and typical of stories of delay of treatments which can be found in a variety of sources. So the source is immaterial to the point. There are such delays.

And it is NOT true

 

[Subduction Zone]

Frankly I don't care if you don't like the Daily Express. The story itself is credible and typical of stories of delay of treatments which can be found in a variety of sources. So the source is immaterial to the point. There are such delays.

Are you sure? Here is a test, if it is credible then unbiased news sources will carry the same story. So why use that one when posting here? It is fine to get ideas from such a source but one should double check them. If you post from an unreliable source why should anyone give it or you any credibility? By using poor sources all of the time you make yourself appear to lack any credibility.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-express/

 

[Polymath257]

That shows you don't know the U.S. system. If someone has an emergency medical condition, regardless of ability to pay, you receive treatment. That's the law. A grandfather such as in the story, who presumably would be on Medicare, would receive care without the 3 month delay.

Not true. Because of shortages in personnel and the resulting delays, it is very common to not be able to get in to see a specialist within 3 months. My allergist is now booking 6 months ahead and my general care is at about 3 months.

You can get into see emergency care, that is true. But a cancer diagnosis doesn't count as an emergency. And expect a LONG wait before you see anyone unless you are likely to die within the hour. Also, you will get into serious financial problems if you rely on emergency services for your care (and it is not covered by insurance).

 

[Shaul]

Ive checked, there are no other sources from credible news outlets.

So...

Ask the NHS
Guide to NHS waiting times in England

And the UK government.
Referral to treatment consultant-led waiting times: rules suite (October 2022)

You are misinterpreting what you read. Getting an initial consultation is not the same as getting needed treatment.
The British Medical Association reports that over 7 million patients are experiencing a wait for procedures. And that target wait times for cancer treatments have dropped to 60%. 2.87 million patients, and growing, have waited over 18 weeks for treatments.

NHS backlog data analysis

 

[Shaul]

Not true. Because of shortages in personnel and the resulting delays, it is very common to not be able to get in to see a specialist within 3 months. My allergist is now booking 6 months ahead and my general care is at about 3 months.

You can get into see emergency care, that is true. But a cancer diagnosis doesn't count as an emergency. And expect a LONG wait before you see anyone unless you are likely to die within the hour. Also, you will get into serious financial problems if you rely on emergency services for your care (and it is not covered by insurance).

Do you know of any US patients reporting needing 30 months for cancer treatment like the man in the article is facing?

 

[The Hammer]

You are misinterpreting what you read. Getting an initial consultation is not the same as getting needed treatment.
The British Medical Association reports that over 7 million patients are experiencing a wait for procedures. And that target wait times for cancer treatments have dropped to 60%. 2.87 million patients, and growing, have waited over 18 weeks for treatments.

NHS backlog data analysis

So what? Is everyone getting covered and addressed?

If yes, then good.