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[The Anointed]

"The fact" that the universe is God made manifest? Why do you assume this is a fact?

As I said, you're beginning your argument with the conclusion -- and you're preaching. If you have a case to make, begin with verifiable facts and build from there. Don't work backward from your conclusion.

Yes. I choose, at this time, not to create any gods. I see the universe as Brahman made manifest.

And you would be correct to believe that 'Brahman' is the divine reality of the universe, the eternal invisible spirit from which all being originates and to which all must return at the close of each period of universal activity. (The root to the word Brahman originally meant 'SPEECH', much the same as the Christian Logos is translated as 'WORD') they are both one and the same being.

The first law of thermodynamics is the same as the first law of conservation and that is, that energy can neither be created or destroyed. If energy cannot be created, then it always was, and If it can never be destroyed, it always will be. Therefore, according to this law, energy must be eternal, having neither beginning or end. Energy can be and is converted to that which we perceive as matter. In fact, this apparent material universe at the time of the Big Bang, was pure electromagnetic energy, which, IMO, was spewed out of a WHITE Hole, in the trillions upon trillions of degrees, which has been converted to that which we perceive as matter only to be reconverted to its original form as electromagnetic energy during the phase of the Big Crunch.

If you believe that a universe of mindless matter has produced beings with intrinsic ends, [in Kantian terminology, an end-in-itself] --------- self- replication capabilities, and “coded chemistry”? Then you must accept that it is the eternal energy, which has neither beginning or end, that has become this material universe and has developed a mind that is the compilation of all the information gathered by all the diverse life-forms that it [The Eternal Energy] has become, the 'COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS' of all that it is.

In fact, it has now been revealed that matter is no more than an illusion. Quantum physicists discovered that so called physical atoms are made up of vortices of energy that are constantly spinning and vibrating, each one radiating its own unique energy signature.

If you observed the composition of an atom with a microscope you would see a small, invisible tornado-like vortex, with a number of infinitely small energy vortices called quarks and photons. These are what make up the structure of the atom. As you focused in closer and closer on the structure of the atom, you would see nothing, you would observe a physical void. The atom has no physical structure, we have no physical structure, physical things really don’t have any physical structure! Atoms are made out of invisible energy, not tangible matter.

Nothing is solid & everything is energy: scientists explain the world of quantum physics

Here is an extract from the above link------ The stream of knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a 'GREAT THOUGHT' rather than a great machine. The mind seems to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, but rather a creator and governor of the realm of matter. (R. C. Henry, « the mental world »; Nature 436: 29, 2005)

The root to the word “BRAHMAN” originally meant “SPEECH”, much the same as the “LOGOS” is said to mean ‘WORD.

Shabda Brahman From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Shabda Brahman or Sabda-brahman or Nada brahmin means transcendental sound (Shatapatha Brahmana III.12.48) or sound vibration (Shatpatha Brahmana Vi.16.51) or the transcendental sound of the Vedas (Shatpatha Brahmana Xi.21.36) or of Vedic scriptures (Shatpatha Brahmana X.20.43).

Nada Brahmin Tradition

Shabda or sabda stands for word manifested by sound ('verbal') and such a word has innate power to convey a particular sense or meaning (Artha). According to the Nyaya and the Vaisheshika schools, Shabda means verbal testimony; to the Sanskrit grammarians, Yaska, Panini and Katyayana it meant a unit of language or speech or vac. In the philosophical terms this word appears for the first time in the Maitri Upanishad (Sloka VI.22) that speaks of two kinds of Brahman - Shabda Brahman ('Brahman with sound') and Ashabda Brahman ('soundless Brahman'). Bhartrhari speaks about the creative power of shabda, the manifold universe is a creation of Shabda Brahman (Brihadaranyaka Upanishad IV.i.2). Speech is equated with Brahman (Shatpatha Brahmana 2.1.4.10).The Rig Veda states that Brahman extends as far as Vāc (R.V.X.114.8), and has hymns in praise of Speech as the Creator (R.V.X.71.7) and as the final abode of Brahman (R.V.I.164.37). Time is the creative power of Shabda Brahman.

Shabda OR SHABDA STANDS FOR ‘WORD’ MANIFESTED BY SOUND [VERBAL]

Bhartrhari speaks about the creative power of shabda, the manifold universe is a creation of Shabda Brahman

The Rig Veda states that Brahman extends as far as Vāc (R.V.X.114.8), and has hymns in praise of ‘SPEECH AS THE CREATOR.’

The Greek word “LOGOS” which has been translated as “WORD”, should be seen as ‘The thoughts in the mind which are to be expressed.

The term, “LOGOS” pertains to the very plan from the outset. [The creation of a universal body in which a Supreme mind or personality of Godhead to that body, develops.] In Sanskrit the similar meaning is given in the use of the word 'vach.' Vach means word. But in Sanskrit teachings of the Sanatana Dharma, vach has many levels. Including where the word is first considered as being in the mind as a thought, not as the spoken word or speech.

John 1: 1; In the beginning was the Logos and the Logos was with God and was God. And the supreme personality or controlling mind to have developed within the invisible eternal body of ever evolving information, was “THE LIGHT OF MAN” All the information, knowledge, wisdom and insight, gained from the body of mankind, the MOST HIGH in the previous creation, who was the Light and life of that ever-growing body of information, which I call God, and which you call 'Brahman. All things came into existence through him, by him and for him. Without him, nothing exists.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Do you think john the apostle saw almost everything that has to do with the end of the world?

I don't accept John as a visionary or a prophet. A prophet has to be evaluated and approved by the religious authorities. That whole era had ended.

 

[The Anointed]

"The fact" that the universe is God made manifest? Why do you assume this is a fact?

As I said, you're beginning your argument with the conclusion -- and you're preaching. If you have a case to make, begin with verifiable facts and build from there. Don't work backward from your conclusion.

Yes. I choose, at this time, not to create any gods. I see the universe as Brahman made manifest.

So let us begin at the beginning of this universe which was created from the invisible energy that has neither beginning or end, and which has become all that exists, the essential reality of this universe the eternal and invisible spirit from which all being originates and to which all must return at the close of this period of universal activity, and if as you say, you believe this eternal spirit to be Brahman made manifest, then you must believe that the most High, the supreme personality to have developed within Brahman, is Krishna, who is the eighth manifestation of Vishnu the saviour.

The six creative days and the seventh day of God's rest, are referred to in Genesis 2: 4; as the generations of the universe. Enoch states that God created and eighth day also, but it is a day eternal, with neither hours, days, weeks, months or years, for all time shall be stuck together in one aeon, etc.

In this quatrain, by Omar Khayyam, the wine referred to, is like to the wine of the God Baccus, the wine of wisdom. Ah! The grape that can with logic absolute, the two and seventy jarring sects confute The mighty Alchemist that in a thrice, Life’s leaden metal into gold transmute.

The search for the philosopher’s stone was for the transmutation of our bodies of clay to the glorious golden bodies of light.

According to Greek mythology, Zeus was the sixth child born to Time (Kronos) and Space (Rhea), Time was his father and Space his mother. Zeus is the Godhead, the most high that was created on the sixth day, or the sixth period of universal activity, the sixth generation of the universe, Zeus, the sixth child born to Time and Space is called the father of Gods and men, the most high and powerful among mortals, whom all others obey.

His five siblings, Hestia, Demeter, Hera, Hades, and Poseidon were swallowed by their father ’Time’ immediately after they were born. The five universal bodies, who were born to Time and Space prior to the sixth universal child, did not develop a mind, that is to say, a spiritual godhead to the universal body in which they were developing.

When Zeus was born, his mother ’Space’ hid him in a cave, a tunnel (A worm hole) and gave to her partner ‘Time,’ a stone wrapped in swaddling cloth, which he swallowed. The stone swallowed by Time was none other than the philosopher’s stone, the concealed stone of many colours, the single stone with seven facets, the mystic seed of transcendental life, which should invade, tinge, and wholly transmute, the imperfect self into spiritual gold.

The son of Zeus and his sister wife Demeter, is Dionysus who is equated with Osiris, The Platonists who believed the Greek myths called Dionysus, the mind within us, our master, our indwelling ruler.”

Demeter was the sister wife of Zeus and mother of Dionysus [The first born son of Zeus and the successor to the throne of the spiritual godhead to the human race] whose body was torn to pieces by the Titans, (The baptism of blood) then boiled in water before being roasted in fire; [The baptism of water, followed by the baptism of fire]

When Zeus had grown, it was by a cunning devise of Metis ‘which is divine wisdom,’ that Cronos (Time) was forced to bring up the five children or the previous five universal bodies that he had swallowed before they had developed a Supreme personality of godhead within them, but first of all the seven faceted stone..

Those children who were swallowed by time, were the product of the first five creative days or periods of universal activity, (The first five generations of the universe.). Osiris like Adam was the first man to be mummified and Osiris is the god of the first of the five new made days. Budge—Book of the Dead, p. 627, “O Osiris, son of Nut (Primeval matter), I have given unto thee the Sovereignty of thy father Seb (Time), and the goddess Mut (Space), thy mother, (Lord of Space and Time) who gave birth to the gods, brought you forth as the first born of five gods, and created thy beauties and fashioned thy members.”

Isis, the sister wife to Osiris, was the most popular goddess from the time of Psamtik 1 (663-610 B.C) till the coming of Christianity, her cult appealed to the Greeks and Romans alike and when Egypt came under Roman rule, her cult spread through much of Europe. By the time of Jesus, the chief center of her worship was in Rome. Isis is commonly depicted with Horus the child (Harpocrates) on her lap, and today, it is impossible to distinguish between the late pagan and early Christian figures of the mother and child, it’s almost as though the old Pagan Queen was stripped of her old garments and clothed with the new covering of Christianity.

From Wikipedia; Yeshua (ישוע, with vowel pointing יֵשׁוּעַ – yēšūă‘ in Hebrew) was a common alternative form of the name יְהוֹשֻׁעַ ("Yehoshua" – Joshua) in later books of the Hebrew Bible and among Jews of the Second Temple period. The name corresponds to the Greek spelling Iesous (Ἰησοῦς), from which, through the Latin Iesus, comes the English spelling Jesus.

The man Jesus, is the biological son of Mary and her half-brother Joseph, who were both sired by Alexander Helios, also called Heli, but by different mothers, their son Jesus, according to the scriptures was appointed by the Lord, as King and High Priest after the order of Melchizedek.

In Zechariah 3, The Lord shows the prophet another vision of Joshua/Jesus, the High Priest, standing before the angel of the Lord, and as the Lord had said to Michael: "Go take Enoch from out his earthly garments, and anoint him with my sweet ointment, and put him into the garments of my glory," So too, Michael commands his attendants to remove the filthy clothes from Jesus and clothe him with new clothes and a new turban, then a seven faceted stone is placed before him.

After the physical body of Jesus of Nazareth was resurrected, it was later translated to a glorious body of brilliant and blinding Light, which confronted Paul on the road to Damascus, who cried out, “Who are you Lord?” To which the voice from the light replied; “I am Jesus of Nazareth whom you persecute.”