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Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by LiveByFaithNotSight, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. LiveByFaithNotSight

    LiveByFaithNotSight The Art Of Conversing

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    in the Quran Surah 3:3 say

    SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
    "He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel."

    Does Mean you believe in the Torah ( 1st 5 books of the Holy Scriptures) and the Gospels (Matthew,Mark,Luke and John). would this be our common ground or its referencing another Torah and Gospel I'm not familiar with?
     
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    Sorry, not a muslim but here is something on it.

    Does the Qur'an teach Muslims to believe in the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel? - IslamCan.com
     
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  3. LiveByFaithNotSight

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    There aren't that many regular Muslim posters now, sadly. You may need to wait for an answer.
     
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    Unfortunately RF doesn’t have regular Muslims contributors as it used to. Although I’m a Baha’i, Baha’is like Muslim’s believe Muhammed was a Messenger of God and that the Holy Quran in the authenticated respository of the word of God. The Baha’i Faith emerged out of Islam as Christianity emerged out of Judaism and although an independent religion has a special relationship it.

    Muhammad teaches that it is not enough to believe in him but must also believe in the prophets who have gone before with special emphasis on Jesus who brought the Gospel and Moses who brought the Torah.

    We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam).

    Quran 3:84
     
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  6. LiveByFaithNotSight

    LiveByFaithNotSight The Art Of Conversing

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    I will and thank you for telling me atleast I know it might be a wait.
     
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    Pastek Sunni muslim

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    That is correct, just as it was said in the previous posts.
    We don't believe it's 100% accurate because like it was said we are not sure about the writters of the Bible.
    Obviously anyone who have read both the Bible and the Quran can spot the differences.

    Muslims are not obliged to read the Bible, so you may find a lot of muslims who haven't read it.
     
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  8. LiveByFaithNotSight

    LiveByFaithNotSight The Art Of Conversing

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    thank you can I ask a few more questions?
     
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    Pastek Sunni muslim

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    You're welcome.
    Yes of course you can ask
     
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  10. LiveByFaithNotSight

    LiveByFaithNotSight The Art Of Conversing

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    why question the writers of the bible? if the quran called the bible or the Torah and gospels the book of truth how can man corrupt something that Allah says is truth?
     
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    Pastek Sunni muslim

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    Yes people can corrupt the Books, God said :

    5.44
    Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah ] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto.

    And for the Quran :

    15.9
    Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.


    So God is not the guardian of the previous Revelations but people were in charge of it.
     
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  12. LiveByFaithNotSight

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    that makes complete sense thank you for that breakdown.
     
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  13. LiveByFaithNotSight

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    how important is it to know the truth written in those books before any type of corruption may have took place?
     
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    The Quran says the Jews because of their book being flawed are unbelievers.
     
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    It's important for those who want to understand what exactly happened.
    Those who for exemple want to know who is this or that prophet, his message etc

    Muslims don't have elements (or few) concerning some prophets so they only have the Bible, Israiliyat ( Isra'iliyyat - Wikipedia) and Hadiths.
     
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    I am an Arab and i believe and read both the Tora, Psalms, Gospel and Quran. What are your questions? The Quran is very clear about judging with the Gospel, read 5:47. The Quran is very clear about upholding the Tora and the Gospel, read 5:68. The Quran is very clear about the believers who believe in the Quran and the Previous Scriptures, read 2:4. The Quran is very clear about believing in the Scriptures and the Prophets, read 2:285. Etc. etc. etc.

    Don't be fooled by oraganised religions, such as the Sunnis, Catholics, Pharisees etc. they are all the same, and just a fabrication made by the governments in those times to monopolize and control the people. They invented fabrications in the name of God and Hes Messengers and started telling people to uphold it besides the Scriptures, they invented the Narrations in 'Islam', they invented the Trinity in 'Christianity', they invented the Talmud in 'Judaism' etc.
    Stay away from them. Read Scripture alone. And learn the languages, Greek, Hebrew and Arabic, if you really want to read the originals. All these translations are distorted and made by the sectarians.

    And i also saw how JW is a sect, stay away from them, they say Jesus Christ is Michael the Angel, they don't believe in Hell, etc. And even worse, they don't even use the right Greek New Testament. They use the self made Greek Westcott and Hort version and the self made Greek Nestle Aland version, instead of the Greek New Testament that can be found in the Greek Church. So even before they start with their translations, they will have errors in them.
     
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    Nah that's just a fabrication which you are spreading.

    The Quran in 5:68 tells the people of the Book to uphold the Tora and the Gospel. And in 5:47 it tells us to Judge with the Gospel. The real believers are those who believe in the Quran, and the Previous Scriptures, 2:4. We believe in the Scriptures and in the Prophets, 2:285.

    The only ones who are disbelieving are the sectarians. The Sunnis, Catholics, Pharisees etc. mainly all organised religions. They reject the Scriptures and turn to what is invented and fabricated and uphold it besides the Scriptures.
    Such as the ahadith, trinity, talmud etc. they uphold it besides the Quran, Gospel and Tora.
     
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    Because they are being fooled by the Saudis and fabricators or the Ahadith. The Ahadith are invented 300 years after Muhammad. They are narrations, thats what ahadith means, invented in the name of Muhammad. So that they can control the people.
    The Saudis teach to ditch the Previous Scriptures. Why? Because without them it's hard to see the bigger picture. Knowledge is power. They want them to live in their black boxes and misinterpret the Quran and follow the invented ahadith doctrines.
    The most religious form of 'Islam' is Salafism. It's being regulated by the king of Saud. And Shakyh ala Shaykh is their religious leader. And they say that their interpretation and conclusions weight higher the Quran. Enough said, case closed.
     
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  19. LiveByFaithNotSight

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    so the Quran is in Harmony with the Gospels and Torah?
     
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    The Quran says that the Tora and the Gospel are Light and Guidance. It teaches to believe in them, and uphold them, and Judge with the Gospel.

    All that anti Bible messages are just a fabrication made by the sectarians. They dont want the Arabs to read other Scriptures. They dont want them to see the bigger picture. Else their whole fabricated religion based on narrations will crumble.
     
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