So God created a world in such a bad way that he had no choice but to destroy the vast majority of human and animal life to fix the problems?
And then it didn't even solve the problems.
A God this incompetent is worth worshipping?
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Some remarks on Noah
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And then it didn't even solve the problems.
A God this incompetent is worth worshipping?
Shadow11
Member
There is the theory that human blood was tainted by the fallen angels who impregnated women creating a different human. It say these spawns where super human and God flooded and removed the stain of the mixed blood. You can find it in the books of Enock but are not a part of the canonical Apocrypha. The giants where spawns of the angels.
I not say any of this is true the books are not recognized its just there. Genesis does touch on it slightly. Not what I believe.You can read it if you want it is available online. I believe they call them the watchers - its in the movie also with Russel Crow where they took from the book.
I say again Enoch is not approved.
I not say any of this is true the books are not recognized its just there. Genesis does touch on it slightly. Not what I believe.You can read it if you want it is available online. I believe they call them the watchers - its in the movie also with Russel Crow where they took from the book.
I say again Enoch is not approved.
He let people decide. Using Noah was a stroke of Genius, especially since the story helps us be better.
The facts go against anyone who interprets it literally. So we question why literalists have made that poor decision.
How does it make anyone better, exactly?
Did it make Noah a better person?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Really? What test could possible refute that Noah was righteous?
And I thought that you were down to a local flood. Why would any animals be needed on the magic boat at all?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Yes, one of the first things he did after getting off of the magic boat was to invent alcohol. That does make him pretty righteous. But that does not help the aforementioned "hypothesis" since that occurred after the local flood that people could have walked away from.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Newsflash: ethical behavior is not genetically inheritable.
All those evil babies... yeah, better drown them all!
You make zero sense.
You know, the obvious scientific impossibility being ignored by biblical literalist concerning such stories doesn't even bother me at all compared to the moral bankruptcy of the apologetics that piggy back on it.
Even IF this flood were physically possible, even IF it could be proven beyond a doubt that this thing actually occured.... it is inexcusable. Indefensible. Unjustifiable.
It is pure genocidal evil barbarism of the worst kind the likes of which the world has never seen.
Even the most brutal, evil, barbaric men that have ever walked the earth don't even come close to this degree of unethical, immoral, evil.
And biblical literalists have a religious need to not only defend this, but actually call it "good" also!
It never ceases to amaze me how religion can corrupt basic human decency and ethical thinking like that.
So the all powerfull miracle worker didn't find a better solution then just the indiscriminate killing of everyone and everything, regardless.
Yep, makes perfect sense.
And again we have this shameful one-liner nonsensical "excuse" for why it was okay to simply slaughter millions, billions, of living sentient beings. "the physically impossible boat wasn't big enough".
Yep, great justification you got there.
You might want to look up what makes a hypothesis scientific. Or what makes an idea a hypothesis in the first place.
None of what you scribbled down, qualifies.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
How, exactly?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
So there is hope for Trump's grandchildren.
Let's do this:
Find me an 8-12 year old who does not think Noah's Ark is a good moral story. I know for a fact that kids loved the movie "Evan Almighty."
As for science, scientists can decide personally what they believe and make scientific papers about what they can show.
Show me one statement - I will take the first one - show me one statement to evaluate the scientific authenticity of the story and I will take time on it.
Find me an 8-12 year old who does not think Noah's Ark is a good moral story. I know for a fact that kids loved the movie "Evan Almighty."
As for science, scientists can decide personally what they believe and make scientific papers about what they can show.
Show me one statement - I will take the first one - show me one statement to evaluate the scientific authenticity of the story and I will take time on it.
Im sorry but it is that way too easy lol.
By the way, why kill babies?
Babies can't raise themselves and the parents were evil so they would have taught their babies to be evil.
Babies can't raise themselves and the parents were evil so they would have taught their babies to be evil.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Don't forget that they taste good too.
What moral lesson is there? Don't act like this God so you're not a mass murderer?
Scientists decide to be ethical and objective, and follow the facts. The facts dictate conclusions, and the facts do not back up a literal interpretation.
Beating a dead horse. If there was any element of the Noah myth that was plausible it has been revealed already.
But realize these babies were from parents that your God created, and created flawed and evil. So not an excuse for your God. It should have created moral and decent people so it didn't;t have to murder their innocent offspring.
Since you approve of God murdering babies I take it you're not pro-life.
I am pro-life and your arguments are crap and you know it.
So you agree that the USA should have universal healthcare, given you are pro-life?
I notice you avoided explaining how my arguments are crap, as I don't know what you mean. So explain.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
What is wrong with that argument? And how can you say that you are "pro-life" when a husband whose wife cheated on him could force her to get an abortion in the Bible?