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Featured Sola-Scriptura destroys itself!

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by Spiderman, Apr 9, 2017.

  1. viole

    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    Well, I agree. People suffering from anorexia are clear counter evidence.

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  2. savagewind

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    Right, if you are taking "feeding" literally. An anorexic is looking for a perfect body. Why?
     
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    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    Mmh. That was not literal?

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  4. savagewind

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    What was not literal?
    no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body,

    "They feed" if taken literally means someone who doesn't feed herself is not counted.
    But she does decide NOT TO feed herself which is still about feeding.
    A sick person is fed a little soup to keep up his strength. Someone who wants to be as thin as she can be feeds herself a little so that she can be thinner.
     
  5. viole

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    What was not literal? You tell me "if taken literally...." and you ask me what was not literal?

    Are there other parts that we should not take literally?

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    But that simply does not change the fact that the scriptures not only were not written before or at the same time as the creation of the church, but also that the canon hadn't also been decided until centuries later, and that was done by the church.

    Secondly, the oral tradition was not uniform across the board, which is why selection of the canon was difficult and very time consuming (over 1/2 century).
     
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  7. savagewind

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    Maybe literally isn't the right word.
    I am saying that to feed and not to feed both apply to that scripture.
    It seems to me that your comment meant that not feeding yourself proves that scripture is wrong.
     
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    Some guy from Rome decided what would be included in the Bible along with a number other long hairs.

    Much of our understanding of what the Bible passages mean, comes from the leading Roman church fathers, and their writings.
    Rome was always wise enough to know that the Bible alone was not enough, and the tradition and wisdom passed down from the Apostles, and through the apostolic succession was necessary for a greater understanding.

    The fears of the early protestants, in cutting themselves off from the past wisdom held by the Church of Rome. Left them with only the Bible and their own folly, for knowledge and understanding. Much of what had been passed down from the Apostles was lost to them.
    They had thrown the baby out with the bath water....

    What can be found in the Bible, if interpreted and understood correctly, is enough to live a Christian life.
    However it is the minimum....not the maximum, and even that is unlikely to be understood with out help. Nor is it every thing that can be known, nor everything that is known.
     
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    The problem occurs when the Bible plainly teaches one thing and the "church" decides it means something different. Scripture alone may not fully explain every detail but it should not be contradicted,.
     
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    Bible alone cannot resolve the problem of theodicy. Neither can the Christianity in general. So, if you reject one take on Christianity, such as Sola scriptura, why not reject the whole thing?
     
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    Because I find delight in prayer and follow my heart. I encourage all people to pray and listen to the still small voice inside of them :)
     
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    The Mighty whispers.
     
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    What proves the Scripture is wrong is that there are people who hate their body.

    I wish I was dead and free of this body. I take care of this body, clean it, brush my teeth, and go through the motions, but I hate it and wish I was dead.

    I don't kill myself because I believe God and some spirits in Heaven want me to remain alive and die on God's timing. I also don't want to hurt my family by committing suicide.

    Still, I hate my body and flesh! It is a burden to me and a cross I don't want to carry and can't wait to be free of it. That Scripture verse is false!
     
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    Sola Cor?
     
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    I think following the heart and conscience and praying for enlightenment is good religion.
     
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    "Religion without philosophy is sentiment, and philosophy without religion is mental speculation."
     
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    It is not false. You have even admitted that you do nurture it.
    Is it true that the body of believers are the temple of God? Do you hate God's temple?
    Please see that hate at Ephesians 5:29 just means to love less. You are right to love your flesh less than you do your hope to be free of it.

    Ephesians uses the same word hate as other scriptures say; the world hates them who are for Jesus. Do they really? No! They can do without us is all.

    Do you care? Look at the link Strong's Greek: 3404. μισέω (miseó) -- to hate and meditate on the scriptures to the right in red.
     
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    The truth is that we are not to be putting the desires of the flesh ahead of the love of God to do the will of God.
     
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    I passionately hate my my flesh. I eat and clean because I don't want to be hungry or stink. I truly hate the flesh and can't wait to die. If it wouldn't hurt my family and if God approved of it, I would kill myself.

    Yes , that Scripture is false. There are people who hate their body.
     
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    You are young. I might bet that someday you will change your mind and find that the flesh can experience wonderful things. I was the same way at times. I was wrong. It is possible that you might be wrong also.
     
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