Society Without Police?

[Isolde Schulz]

I think so. You seem to regard all law enforcement as inherently oppressive and racist. I don't.

Observe the pervasive current events with police. Surely you don't forgive them.

 

[Left Coast]

Observe the pervasive current events with police. Surely you don't forgive them.

No. Recognizing the current problems with law enforcement does not require one to believe the only solution to those problems is completely abolishing all police departments.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

No. Recognizing the current problems with law enforcement does not require one to believe the only solution to those problems is completely abolishing all police departments.

Truly recognising the atrocities at hand would optimally require you to consider drastic measures by now. If logic dictates.

 

[Left Coast]

Truly recognising the atrocities at hand would optimally require you to consider drastic measures by now. If logic dictates.

As we've seen 6 pages into this discussion, logic seems to dictate that we require some sort of police force in order to maintain important services to modern communities. No doubt large reforms seem necessary to improve American policing.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

As we've seen 6 pages into this discussion, logic seems to dictate that we require some sort of police force in order to maintain important services to modern communities. No doubt large reforms seem necessary to improve American policing.

Improve? You mean further militarise. It's clear beyond day you'll perpetuate ancient mechanisms, but of what personal worth is it to you to be vigilant for what clearly decays?

 

[Left Coast]

Improve? You mean further militarise.

No, that isn't at all what I mean.

It's clear beyond day you'll perpetuate ancient mechanisms, but of what personal worth is it to you to be vigilant for what clearly decays?

It's clear beyond day that you don't actually know me or have a clue what my values are.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

No, that isn't at all what I mean.



It's clear beyond day that you don't actually know me or have a clue what my values are.

If you insist, mate. I'd rather not.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'm sorry to say it rings of Orwellian style communism to me. So we'd all be snitching on each other?

That's how Jews were rounded up in Nazi Germany.

Snitch on your neighbor.

I hate to use Godwin here but it's fitting I think.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Isn't that pretty much how law enforcement works in the U.S. already? Every time there's a crime reported in the news, there's always the statement: "Police are asking if anyone knows about this to contact the police department." There's a local number that people can call to anonymously report crimes. Not to mention the crimes solved with the help of police informants.

I think in cases that's good policy, yet like all good things, there's potential for abuses.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

Abuse is rampant. Suppose they do more.

 

[Kooky]

I think so. You seem to regard all law enforcement as inherently oppressive and racist. I don't.

I consider law enforcement a reflection of the society it polices.

 

[Left Coast]

I consider law enforcement a reflection of the society it polices.

I think that's probably true to some degree.

I don't want to abolish society either.

 

[Stevicus]

I think in cases that's good policy, yet like all good things, there's potential for abuses.

I can see that, although I was mainly addressing the idea that "snitching" is some kind of Orwellian idea which implies that it only exists in totalitarian societies.