Socialist Mayor elected in Buffalo NY.

[Revoltingest]

I actually do know the history of the term, that's why I reject the misusage of the term by American propertarians in favor of its original French usage as anti-capitalist anti-authoritarianism.

You're unfamiliar with the English origins then.
That's a common affliction of the left...their myopic
passion for things French & socialist.
This might help.
Libertarianism - Wikipedia

But no matter.
We use the term to mean what we mean...not what
long dead froggie etymological co-opters meant.

 

[Kooky]

You're unfamiliar with the English origins then.

If you had read further ahead than the very first sentence of the article you cite, you would know that Belsham's position of "libertarianism" had nothing at all to do with politics, but concerned solely the question of whether a human free will was compatible with a deterministic universe (and as you would surely know, a "libertarian" of Belshamian cut would answer that question in the negative).

We use the term to mean what we mean...

I'm glad you could see reason. I hope you will from this day on refrain from wrongly characterizing your market extremist ideas as "libertarian", as they have nothing at all to do with human liberty.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Even I can see the obvious flaw in this plan, if this is really what she said.

Not having the police answer mental health calls is good, I support that. But somebody has to answer those calls. Any “savings” should go having mental health experts answer these calls, There might not be any savings at all. (Except perhaps saving lives).

Still a good idea though.

It saves the tax payers from having to pay out for the misdeeds of bad cops, it saves money by having fewer arrests (as the social worker police seem to rarely make arrests).
But not only the mentally ill are killed by police more often than any other group.
https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter...-more-likely-to-be-killed-by-law-enforcement-

People with untreated mental illness are 16 times more likely to be killed during a police encounter than other civilians approached or stopped by law enforcement, according to a new study released today by the Treatment Advocacy Center.

Half of People Killed by Police Have a Disability: Report - NAMI Illinois

Almost half of the people who die at the hands of police have some kind of disability, according to a new report, as officers are often drawn into emergencies where urgent care may be more appropriate than lethal force.

The report, published by the Ruderman Family Foundation, a disability organization, proposes that while police interactions with minorities draw increasing scrutiny, disability and health considerations are still neglected in media coverage and law enforcement policy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...d5bcf6-0245-11eb-b7ed-141dd88560ea_story.html

The 2019 death in Springfield, Ore., was one of 1,324 fatal shootings by police over the past six years that involved someone police said was in the throes of a mental health crisis — about a quarter of all fatal police shootings during that period, according to a Washington Post database.

How Mental Illness Affects Police Shooting Fatalities - International Bipolar Foundation

In 2015, the Washington Post conducted the first ongoing tally of officer-involved shooting deaths of the mentally ill. Nationwide, at least 25% of people who are shot and killed by police officers suffer from acute mental illness at the time of their death. People with untreated mental illness are 16 times more likely to be fatally shot during an encounter with police than people with their mental illnesses under control.

According to the Post’s 2018 tally, 1,165 civilians were fatally shot by police. Of those, more than 200 were confirmed to be mentally ill. Someone needs to be paying attention.

Unarguably, mental illness isn’t the only factor involved in fatal police encounters. Race is one that is often talked about. But the link of mental illness to police brutality doesn’t have the same publicity.
...
The perception of people suffering mental illness as violent and dangerous is another reason police are called. Officers are the only people often perceived by the public to be able to deescalate mental health crises. According to the American Psychiatric Association, most people with mental illness are not violent, but using the law enforcement as a blunt instrument contributes to the stigma that they are. In fact, people with mental illness are more likely than others to be victims of a crime, not perpetuate them.

 

[Revoltingest]

If you had read further ahead....

I've read it all before.
You're not the first leftie to leap to justification of socialism.
And you'll not be the last to ignore the origins of modern
libertarianism having preceded French perversion of it.

 

[sun rise]

We use the term to mean what we mean.

I see you are a follower of Humpty Dumpty:

 

[Twilight Hue]

If you were actually curious, you could look it up, you know.

I did.

She's an open Socialist and not denying it. At least she's admitting it.

She's been endorsed by the Socialist Democrats of America and The Working Families Party.

India Walton Poised To Become Buffalo’s First Socialist Mayor | HuffPost


My curiosity has been satisfied.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Well, it's the N east coast....whaddaya expect.

Dat true. It's a bona-fide commie community here.

 

[Kooky]

I've read it all before.

And yet you managed to completely misunderstand what you read, and invent new "facts" on top of that.

 

[Revoltingest]

I see you are a follower of Humpty Dumpty:

Choice is limited for me.
Dictionaries provide choices for various contexts.
This differs from the far left (Humpty),
& the far right (Dumpty).

 

[Revoltingest]

And yet you managed to completely misunderstand what you read, and invent new "facts" on top of that.

You should read the whole thing.
Not just your favorite part about France.
It's the smart thing to do.

 

[Kooky]

You should read the whole thing.

I did. Maybe you should, too, because you clearly didn't get it on your first try.

 

[Revoltingest]

I did. Maybe you should, too, because you clearly didn't get it on your first try.

Nice tie

 

[metis]

It's begun.

India Walton Could Become The First Socialist Mayor Of A Major U.S. City In Decades

India Walton stuns longtime incumbent in Buffalo mayoral primary.

I feel bad for everyone living there , and maintain that you get and deserve who you vote for.

So you are pre-judging.

Instead, maybe wait and see how this pans out.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Looks like Brown challenged her for the November election as a write in candidate calling her an inexperienced radical socialist.

To bad he didn't do that in the primary, but most people think Brown in spite of being asleep at the wheel during the primary, will take in the win come the general election day.

There's a decent chance to prevent a socialist from digging in her claws. At least I hope so for the sake of democracy.

Byron Brown launches write-in campaign for mayor as others eye the race

 

[tytlyf]

Looks like Brown challenged her for the November election as a write in candidate calling her an inexperienced radical socialist.

To bad he didn't do that in the primary, but most people think Brown in spite of being asleep at the wheel during the primary, will take in the win come the general election day.

There's a decent chance to prevent a socialist from digging in her claws. At least I hope so for the sake of democracy.

Byron Brown launches write-in campaign for mayor as others eye the race

From the past few years, it's pretty obvious which party hates democracy and wants to overthrow it.
Even your opinion shows disdain for our democratic system.
They've trained you well.

 

[Twilight Hue]

From the past few years, it's pretty obvious which party hates democracy and wants to overthrow it.
Even your opinion shows disdain for our democratic system.
They've trained you well.

Apparently they trained the Democrats as well.

Byron Brown even calls her a radical Socialist reminding people it's still a democracy in Buffalo.

The good Democrats anyways.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I sometimes feel as if I'm watching large swaths of civilization slither down the slimy rabbit hole of right wing rubbish. It is a dismal rot that may well be too far advanced to reverse anytime in the foreseeable future.

 

[tytlyf]

Apparently they trained the Democrats as well.

Byron Brown even calls her a radical Socialist reminding people it's still a democracy in Buffalo.

The good Democrats anyways.

My point stands. Republicans/conservatives seem to really hate America's democratic system of elections. They continue to erode our democracy. Over lies. Dangerous people. (we blame their media)

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I sometimes feel as if I'm watching large swaths of civilization slither down the slimy rabbit hole of right wing rubbish. It is a dismal rot that may well be too far advanced to reverse anytime in the foreseeable future.

I think 2024 will be the ultimate test to see, if Trump or Pence run.

And though I find your posts a bit critical of things sometimes, sometimes I think they're a wakeup call too, to those who listen. Some of them have helped me.

 

[Stevicus]

Looks like Brown challenged her for the November election as a write in candidate calling her an inexperienced radical socialist.

To bad he didn't do that in the primary, but most people think Brown in spite of being asleep at the wheel during the primary, will take in the win come the general election day.

There's a decent chance to prevent a socialist from digging in her claws. At least I hope so for the sake of democracy.

Byron Brown launches write-in campaign for mayor as others eye the race

So, he blew off the primary and lost, and now he's doing a write-in candidacy? I was reading that article, and it appears he may face some obstacles. It noted that two other local politicians may also join the fray. One of them might get help from Bloomberg.

New challenges may also complicate Brown's effort. Former County Executive Joel A. Giambra and Delaware Council Member Joel P. Feroleto have indicated that they may also join the fray. Giambra said Monday that he is "seriously considering" a write-in race, while Feroleto confirmed from his honeymoon in Italy that he is also pondering a campaign.

"It's terrible we have a Democratic candidate for mayor and only 20,000 people had the chance to opine on her candidacy," Giambra said of the paltry turnout that resulted in Walton's win. "There are 120,000 voters in Buffalo who I believe deserve that opportunity."


Meanwhile, sources close to Feroleto say he may enlist the financial and organizational support of former New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, whom he supported during the 2020 Democratic presidential primaries. They say Bloomberg could soon or is already polling Buffalo voters on the feasibility of a write-in campaign for mayor, which has never before been seriously attempted in Buffalo.

The article indicated that they could be concerned that Walton's candidacy could encourage other socialist candidates to come forward.

"We urge Brown to accept the will of the voters, end this futile campaign, and help us work towards a seamless transition," she said. "It would be a shame for Brown to ruin his legacy by partnering with right-wing real estate developers in this pointless effort. The people of Buffalo deserve so much better than this.”

But as others have pointed out in this thread, a city mayor really doesn't have that much real power. The state or federal government could step in at any time.