Socialism: evil impact

[sun rise]

This is horrible, of course. How dare Democrats take even a step down this path to ruin. The sordid details: Swedish citizen stuns Americans with post about Nordic life | Daily Mail Online Some of the details are hidden so as not to disturb people who are easily bothered by such images.

(I am of course trolling)

Spoiler: First example of evil

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[Revoltingest]

Could you do the same comparison in a real socialist country.....let's say N Korea?

 

[Altfish]

This is horrible, of course. How dare Democrats take even a step down this path to ruin. The sordid details: Swedish citizen stuns Americans with post about Nordic life | Daily Mail Online Some of the details are hidden so as not to disturb people who are easily bothered by such images.

(I am of course trolling)

Spoiler: First example of evil

Spoiler: More if you dare

Yes, but have they got FREEDOM can they carry guns?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Could you do the same comparison in a real socialist country.....let's say N Korea?

N korea isn't socialist. It was back under Kim il Sung, but failed implementation as it became an authoritarian monarchy. Since the workers don't own the means of production, it's no more socialist than any other absolute Monoarchy. It's also no less capitalist than anywhere else (including the Nordic countries). It's just state capitalism, where formerly 'black market' economic transactions are now part of the DPRK constitution. Though how much of that aspect has been implemented is unknown due to the obfuscation of their economic dealings.

Still, N Korea is no more socialist than Norway.

 

[Yerda]

Could you do the same comparison in a real socialist country.....let's say N Korea?

Nobody wants a system like N Korea.

And it's not socialist.

 

[exchemist]

This is horrible, of course. How dare Democrats take even a step down this path to ruin. The sordid details: Swedish citizen stuns Americans with post about Nordic life | Daily Mail Online Some of the details are hidden so as not to disturb people who are easily bothered by such images.

(I am of course trolling)

Spoiler: First example of evil

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This, of course, is not socialism.

It is a mild form of social market democracy.

 

[Revoltingest]

N korea isn't socialist.
Still, N Korea is no more socialist than Norway.

Right...Norway, with a market economy is socialist.
N Korea, with a command economy is....uh...anything but socialist.

 

[Revoltingest]

Nobody wants a system like N Korea.

And it's not socialist.

Right...& neither were the old PRC or USSR.
But exemplary countries with capitalist market economies are.

 

[Revoltingest]

This, of course, is not socialism.

It is a mild form of social market democracy.

Some day, they'll come up with a standard term to
describe a capitalist country with a strong social
safety net.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Right...Norway, with a market economy is socialist.
N Korea, with a command economy is....uh...anything but socialist.

Norway, the Us and N Korea all have a mixed economy. Which is explained in the omitted parts of the post.
But you know what else had a command economy? Medieval European monarchies which, guess what? Weren't ****ing socialist. Lol

 

[Revoltingest]

Norway, the Us and N Korea all have a mixed economy. Which is explained in the omitted parts of the post.
But you know what else had a command economy? Medieval European monarchies which, guess what? Weren't ****ing socialist. Lol

Well, if medieval monarchies weren't socialist,
then modern dictatorships cannot be, eh.
This might help....
North Korea - Wikipedia
"According to article 1 of the constitution of North Korea, the DPRK is an "independent socialist State".[n 3][18]"

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm fine with government ensuring health care for all.
But we don't need to become socialist to do that.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Well, if medieval monarchies weren't socialist,
then modern dictatorships cannot be, eh.
This might help....
North Korea - Wikipedia
"According to article 1 of the constitution of North Korea, the DPRK is an "independent socialist State".[n 3][18]"

According to the same document, its a democratic republic.

Also, the democratic socialists have been the party in power in Sweden for over a decade now. So I guess I'll accept your concession that Sweden is socialist.

 

[Secret Chief]

This is horrible, of course. How dare Democrats take even a step down this path to ruin. The sordid details: Swedish citizen stuns Americans with post about Nordic life | Daily Mail Online Some of the details are hidden so as not to disturb people who are easily bothered by such images.

(I am of course trolling)

Spoiler: First example of evil

Spoiler: More if you dare

This disgusts me. Our UK public health service is thankfully being sold off to private companies, salami slice style.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Yes, but have they got FREEDOM can they carry guns?

So much more important than being able to survive an illness without going bankrupt, eh?

 

[Revoltingest]

According to the same document, its a democratic republic.

And they do pretend to have elections.
But that is a governmental system, not economic.
Although authoritarian regimes do correlate with socialism.

Also, the democratic socialists have been the party in power in Norway for over a decade now. So I guess I'll accept your concession that Norway is socialist.

Norway isn't the most capitalist country around, but it ranks
ahead of even clearly capitalist Japan for economic liberty.
Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom
USA has fallen to 17th place, behind more capitalistic
Canuckistan, UK, & Denmark.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

And they do pretend to have elections.
But that is a governmental system, not economic.
Although authoritarian regimes do correlate with socialism.

Only in the low education red scare US mentality.

Norway isn't the most capitalist country around, but it ranks
ahead of even clearly capitalist Japan for economic liberty.
Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom
USA has fallen to 17th place, behind more capitalistic
Canuckistan, UK, & Denmark.

I don't recognize the heritage foundations take on pretty much anything.

But, I corrected my post before you posted this. I misremembered but its Sweden that the democratic socialists have been in power, not Norway.
But really North Korea isn't any more socialist than them, either. As, despite what the constitution names them,the constitution has also authorized capitalist enterprises, thereby making it a mixed economy.

 

[exchemist]

Some day, they'll come up with a standard term to
describe a capitalist country with a strong social
safety net.

That's why I used the phrase social market: Social market economy - Wikipedia
That's about as close a term as I can think of to what the Nordics do.

 

[Revoltingest]

Only in the low education red scare US mentality.

Argumentum ad 1950ism, eh.

I don't recognize the heritage foundations take on pretty much anything.

Of course.
Not Wikipedia either, eh.

But, I corrected my post before you posted this. I misremembered but its Sweden that the democratic socialists have been in power, not Norway.
But really North Korea isn't any more socialist than them, either. As, despite what the constitution names them,the constitution has also authorized capitalist enterprises, thereby making it a mixed economy.

Behavior matches their constitution, ie, command economy,
with government controlling the means of production

 

[Audie]

So much more important than being able to survive an illness without going bankrupt, eh?

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