So Who Are The Adults Pulling The Strings of the Child Climate Change Protests?

[Notanumber]

Greta is actually just saying what the overwhelming majority of the actual experts say. Guus Berkhout is a oil industry engineer, not a climate scientist.

Claiming "the experts" support the climate change denial that your alt-right masters have told you to believe, is simply untrue.

As the following shows, unlike those pulling the strings of Greta, they are not scaremongering.

A global network of more than 500 knowledgeable and experienced scientists and professionals in climate and related fields.

There is no climate emergency.

A global network of 500 scientists and professionals has prepared this urgent message. Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should openly address the uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real benefits as well as the imagined costs of adaptation to global warming, and the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of mitigation.

500 Prominent Scientists Warn U.N.: 'There Is No Climate Emergency'

 

[ratiocinator]

As the following shows, unlike those pulling the strings of Greta, they are not scaremongering.

A global network of more than 500 knowledgeable and experienced scientists and professionals in climate and related fields.

There is no climate emergency.

Which seems to be exactly the same source - a tiny minority, even if they were all experts, and at least some of them are not really experts and have vested interests.

It is a fact that almost all the world's experts agree on this point and that you are pushing the view of (at best) a tiny minority of them. When you claim (as you did) that the UN are promoting what Greta says, rather than the experts, that is false. Saying that "the experts" agree with you (or more accurately, your alt-right masters who tell you what to think) is simply untrue - the vast majority don't.

ETA: And posting more propaganda from the tiny minority, isn't going to change anything.

 

[Notanumber]

Which seems to be exactly the same source - a tiny minority, even if they were all experts, and at least some of them are not really experts and have vested interests.

It is a fact that almost all the world's experts agree on this point and that you are pushing the view of (at best) a tiny minority of them. When you claim (as you did) that the UN are promoting what Greta says, rather than the experts, that is false. Saying that "the experts" agree with you (or more accurately, your alt-right masters who tell you what to think) is simply untrue - the vast majority don't.

ETA: And posting more propaganda from the tiny minority, isn't going to change anything.

Do you think these people are the experts?

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[Ben Dhyan]

As the following shows, unlike those pulling the strings of Greta, they are not scaremongering.

A global network of more than 500 knowledgeable and experienced scientists and professionals in climate and related fields.

There is no climate emergency.

A global network of 500 scientists and professionals has prepared this urgent message. Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should openly address the uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real benefits as well as the imagined costs of adaptation to global warming, and the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of mitigation.

500 Prominent Scientists Warn U.N.: 'There Is No Climate Emergency'

The names here.... https://clintel.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ED-brochureversieNWA4.pdf

 

[savagewind]

I think the issue to be talked about is how to avoid a future climate emergency because it will happen if the people of the World ignore it now.

 

[Notanumber]

We don’t mind talking about it.

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[ratiocinator]

Do you think these people are the experts?

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No but they appear to be taking the experts (the scientific consensus) seriously.

 

[Notanumber]

No but they appear to be taking the experts (the scientific consensus) seriously.

Can we take them seriously?

All the evidence suggests that we cannot.

If they are the face of the Climate Change argument, it needs a facelift.

 

[ratiocinator]

Can we take them seriously?

Why would you not want to take the overwhelming consensus of the world's experts on a scientific matter seriously (other than your alt-right masters telling you not to)?

All the evidence suggests that we cannot.

How would you even know? Are you an expert? That's a rhetorical question actually, since you posted that daft article in #143 that said that CO2 wasn't a pollutant and helps plants to grow - which is the logical equivalent of telling people not to worry about floods because water is necessary for life.

The fact is that climate science is complicated and few people are really qualified to judge for themselves. An overwhelming consensus of experts should be taken seriously and articles such as the one you posted tell us that at least some of the minority objections are vacuous propaganda designed to take in the scientifically illiterate.

 

[Notanumber]

This makes sense.

 

[ratiocinator]

This makes sense.

More minority propaganda from someone who isn't a climate scientist, with vested interests, and who lies about helping to start Greenpeace in the first few seconds.

Patrick Moore frequently portrays himself as a founder or co-founder of Greenpeace, and many news outlets have repeated this characterization. Although Mr. Moore played a significant role in Greenpeace Canada for several years, he did not found Greenpeace.

-- Greenpeace Statement On Patrick Moore​

The overwhelming consensus of the real experts is against you and no amount of propaganda is going to change that fact.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

As the following shows, unlike those pulling the strings of Greta, they are not scaremongering.

A global network of more than 500 knowledgeable and experienced scientists and professionals in climate and related fields.

There is no climate emergency.

A global network of 500 scientists and professionals has prepared this urgent message. Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should openly address the uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real benefits as well as the imagined costs of adaptation to global warming, and the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of mitigation.

500 Prominent Scientists Warn U.N.: 'There Is No Climate Emergency'

This is rubbish. They did the same thing several years ago. The 500 are about as expert in the field of climate study as you are.....which is to say, not at all.
Letter signed by "500 scientists" relies on inaccurate claims about climate science

You and others like you (factless denialists) are being purposefully and methodically mislead. Big business used garbage “science” for cigarettes in the 1960’s and 70’s, and other big businesses are doing it now for climate.

Check you sources @Notanumber .

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.​

- Arthur Schopenhauer

The second phase is the long one, but we are coming to the end of it now.

 

[Notanumber]

Character assassination is the preferred option for those without a scientific argument.

https://web.archive.org/web/20050924150423/https://www.greenpeace.org/international/about/history/founders

 

[Notanumber]

The Australians get it.

They are prepared to talk about it.

Follow the money.

 

[metis]

This is rubbish. They did the same thing several years ago. The 500 are about as expert in the field of climate study as you are.....which is to say, not at all.
Letter signed by "500 scientists" relies on inaccurate claims about climate science

And what I've seen repeatedly with similar reports about supposed scientists who oppose the ToE from scientists is a misportral of what some may question about a specific item of the ToE as being totally against the ToE. IOW, if a scientist questions one item dealing with climate change, some take it, intentionally or not, as being a condemnation of the entire enchilada.

 

[Notanumber]

Mark Steyn understands what is going on even if some politicians do not.

We should celebrate the emergence from the Little Ice Age instead of complaining about it. It’s not that long since the major concern was Global Cooling and the threat of a new Ice Age.

Honesty must prevail if society is going to return to its senses.

If you have to blame something, don’t blame CO2, blame the Sun and water vapour, etc.

Margaret Thatcher had a hand in it because of her enthusiasm for nuclear power.

The hockey stick has been discredited.

 

[Notanumber]

It is much more complicated than simply blaming CO2.

 

[Notanumber]

I am posting this just in case anyone has missed it.

It is quite long but well worth the watch.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I take it that you have not seen footage of Greta’s speeches.

Yes I have.
I don't see the hatred you're talking about.

 

[savagewind]

I don't trust that they are saying the world will end in twelve years. I think they say that in twelve years if nothing is done now the damage will be irreversible starting in twelve years.