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So...just what is your reason and purpose for existence?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by s2a, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. s2a

    s2a Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator

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    BFD_Asatru said:

    Bummer. I HATE it when that happens.

    Do your gods tell you what is expected of you in order for you to attain "the appropiate after life"? Is your reason and purpose for existence predicated solely upon their summary judgment ? You were "put" in the here and now simply to measure how you would fare in some divine "pass/fail" test? Is that inspiring or fulfilling in some special way?
     
  2. Mister Emu

    Mister Emu Emu Extraordinaire
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    I cannot state with any confidence a familial relation's location in the hereafter.

    Not sure, makes me feel good? I'll get back to you on what the Catholic Church teaches... Edit: It does teach that every person has a specific purpose...

    I don't believe so...

    Truth. Spiritual fulfillment.

    Yes...

    The two bolded questions are answered by my faith... as to why I am here, I can't give but a generic answer "Love God. Love Man." right now...

    As does my faith. My faith doesn't so much concern itself with "why am I here" outside of attempting to follow God's lead, as making a close relationship with Jesus, which is all that matters. "Why am I here?" is of secondary, perhaps tertiary, importance compared to "Am I loving enough?" or "Am I following God's will?"

    Becuase faith -at least mine- encompasses far more than "Why am I here"...
     
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    To eat food, drink and be merry.
     
  4. s2a

    s2a Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator

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    Halcyon said:

    Perhaps I misunderstand, but it would seem that your existence defines the reason and purpose for the existence of your god. If you (or other faithfully like-minded adherents) did not exist, S/he would have no reason/purpose for existence? So which came first...the chicken or the egg?
     
  5. s2a

    s2a Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator

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    Mister_T said:

    Gated communities sometimes frown upon crazy radicals with body art.

    So I've heard anyway...;-)
     
  6. s2a

    s2a Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator

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    FeathersinHair said:

    *Mwah.* I kiss you and your natural skepticism.

    Cool. A difficult challenge to embrace. In my estimation, you "represent" well.


    When I said:
    If your personal understanding of your own reason and purpose for existence has changed (at least once) in your lifetime, was the catalyst for that change brought about by tragedy or some unpleasant circumstance/consequence...or were you at some pinnacle of goal-set attainment, achievement, or bliss? Did you hear voices in your head? Were you bribed or enticed with a more exciting promise of personal fulfillment, for better or worse?

    You offered:
    Haven't "been there" for that sort of personal inspiration. But I have noted that others are trying for the same...dangling from their car's rear view mirror...

    I inquired:
    Do you believe that your personalized choices in faith/belief/unbelief today, have any influential impact upon the sixth generation to follow, hence your departure from this mortal realm? If you can not recall the existent "reason" and/or "purpose" that your fifth or sixth generation-removed ancestors served or fulfilled, then is it reasonable to conclude that your faith-based beliefs today will have any relevant impact whatsoever upon your equally time-removed descendants?

    You said:
    I hope so too...;-)

    When I inquired:
    If you "know" what your reason and purpose for existence is...(and if you care to) please share, and be specific (within the suggested aforementioned parameters above) when possible. Or if you please, speculate what (you think) your descendants are most likely to recall about your reasoned and purposed existence 300 years from today, or if it even matters whether or not they have any recollection of you (or your reasoned and purposed existence) at all.

    You said:
    Don't be absurd. You pretty much answered the question beforehand (above). I think you are much more perceptive than you would ever care to let on to others...not out of some expectant personal gain or selfishness, but from your reverence of humility and evinced compassion towards others.

    Your wisdom exceeds your words (and years).

    James 3:17-18

    ;-)
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Robert A. Heinlein is quoted in his book, Time Enough for Love as saying:
    "A zygote is a gamete's way of producing more gametes. This may be the purpose of the universe.":biglaugh:
     
  8. Halcyon

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    Yeah you misunderstand.

    What i'm saying is that for my version of God to be complete it must lack nothing, if i did not exist God would lack something, so therefore i exist.
    God doesn't have a reason for existing, it just exists. I exist because God contains all things.
     
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    You haven't happened to see Burt Reynolds or Jon Voight around here, have you?
     
  11. Feathers in Hair

    Feathers in Hair World's Tallest Hobbit

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    While you'll be getting frubals, s2a, I just wanted to let you know that is one of the nicest things that anyone has ever said or written about me. You made me cry with joy while reading it this morning, and I've been trying ever since to explain how deeply your words touched my heart. I can't seem to, so... well, I'll just thank you. :eek:
     
  12. Sunstone

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    Perhaps the best thing about this complement is that it shows great care was taken to be truthful and accurate. Frubals to you s2a!
     
  13. Sunstone

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    The reason and purpose of my existence, of course, is to consume as much of the earth's resources as possible while passing on my DNA as frequently as I can afford to raise offspring who will themselves be in a position to consume as much of the earth's resources as possible. In this manner, I help the economy, which, as everyone knows, is the One True Source Of All Value. When I die, there shall be much wailing and gnashing of teeth among those who keep the sacred Consumer Spending and Borrowing stats.
     
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    The purpose of my existence is nothing more than to observe based upon the quality of life which chance bestowed upon me. For you see, while most people mistakenly hold to the belief that there is some sort of divinity in this world acting as the ultimate observer what they fail to realize that we are the observers of divine origin.

    An explanation in the rationalization of a bored individual. There was only one. The creator. The creator is pure thought. No physical essence. Pure thought existing as only one gets rather lonely. So what pure thought did was to "explode" itself. Or rather, disconnect from one pure consciousness into an infinte number of individual consciousness. I represent just one particular aspect of this diffused thought. Eventually, all of these individual thoughts will coalesce into one pure thought. Or back to the creator. Why? For the experience.

    This philosophy accounts for all notions of good and evil humans as a collective subgroup posit as morality. It also accounts for all "alien" life forms which may exist. It coincides with the big bang (a singularity consisiting of infinite energy expanding into the known universe and all possible universe's put forth by Hawking's physics) and either the big "crunch":( or a universe expanded to the point of "cold death". In either event, all universes come to an end for the original thought to return with a new experience.

    I do not actually believe any of this. I just think my above description of existence, however brief, is actually just as good as any other belief which human beings have described. Following this my reason for existence just is. Barely a simple neuron among the innumerable which have come before me and which may follow. Of course, that is assuming that time is real.

    Anyway, I'm babbling.
     
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    ok now, lemme see if i can type it without killing it heh heh. ive not extenisvly studied the sagas that surround my religion... so i know of no "source" of souls the inhabit the human body... but its not exactly a pass/fail test. the gods need the best possible warriors to battle at ragnarok, although no matter what they do most of them will die, but if im not accepted into their halls, then i might be lucky enough to go to a lesser gods hall, if not them maybe another world out of the nine worlds to inhabit one of the diffrent bodies there, if not then the only other place is helheim which is a place of eternal cold and darkness with many hungry and terrible beasts to fight off, if i can survive there the entire time untill ragnarok then i will be on the opposing force and will fight the army of the gods...did i even make sense there??? if you dont get it look up "norse mythology" on google and read, same thing.
     
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    Um, I've often looked upon Norse mythology as a metaphorical consideration of what humans must endure, growing old and dying slowly.

    This elicited a tendency to glorify wars and battles and dying gloriously when one is young--as opposed to going through the agonies of aging and eventual whimpering death.

    Thankfully, Scandinavians went a bit towards the socialist scheme of things and Scandinavian society is pretty well provided for, the old are revered and honored and provided for so that, whatever aches and pains of aging they may suffer, they are not abandoned to starve because the tribe is in dire straits and cannot spare the resources to sustain them.

    Unfortunately, the United States has gone in the opposite direction, glorifies war under the aegis of the "War President," and is slowly chipping away provision for the old in the form of social security and medicare.
     
  17. s2a

    s2a Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator

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    Oh great...

    Now I've gone and made a girl cry for saying something she thought was nice.

    I can't win.

    ;-)
     
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    On a logical standpoint, i just am, for a religiously based perspective, i am here to serve HaShem,for me it ends up being a little bit of both, or it is decided on my mood i'm afraid.
     
  19. Mister Emu

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    Bwahahaha s2a,

    You haven't figured that out by now? ;)
     
  20. s2a

    s2a Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator

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    Oh heckfire.

    I still owe you a worthy rebuttal, don't I?

    In due course...in due course...I promise.

    Women always unsettle me just a tad...not that there's anything wrong with that.

    ;-)
     
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