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So exactly WHAT was said that was so bad?

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Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...ct-check-trump-dems-and-the-state-of-disunion

TRUMP ON PELOSI

TRUMP, on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., ripping up his State of the Union remarks: “I thought it was a terrible thing when she ripped up the speech. First of all, it's an official document. You're not allowed. It's illegal what she did. She broke the law.” — remarks Friday.

THE FACTS: No laws were broken, legal experts say. That's because it was not an original government document, but Pelosi's copy of the speech.

Steven Aftergood, a records expert at the private Federation of American Scientists, said: “Legally, this is a nonissue. Pelosi was expressing contempt for the president’s speech, and her views are constitutionally protected.” He said her torn-up pieces of the speech might themselves be considered a new record of historical value.

Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard University, said Pelosi did not violate 18 U.S. Code Section 2071. That's the federal law defining the deliberate destruction of an official record that has been filed with a court or other government agency — a felony punishable by a prison term and by forfeiture of office.

Heidi Kitrosser, a law professor at the University of Minnesota, said: “This is not an archival document. ... This is one of many, many, many copies of President Trump's speech and Nancy Pelosi is free to do with it whatever she will.”

Kitrosser added that any disagreement with Trump's speech is protected by the First Amendment "and in Pelosi's case, under the speech and debate clause of the Constitution."

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So whaddya got against Free Speech?
 
T

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
AP FACT CHECK: Trump's exaggerated 'great American comeback'

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metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Maybe when he threw Jesus and the Sermon On the Mount under the bus when commenting on the invocation prayer and his unwillingness to accept them?
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
In his 2020 address to Congress, President Donald Trump stretched and distorted the facts:
  • Trump claimed the economy is “the best it has ever been.” But GDP growth fell to 2.3% last year and economists predict further slowing this year.
  • He said he brought about low unemployment by reversing “years of economic decay” and “failed economic policies,” when in fact over 1 million more jobs were added in the 35 months before he took office than in the first 35 months since.
  • Trump boasted that the “unemployment rate for women reached the lowest level in almost 70 years.” That’s true, but it had been trending down for several years before he took office.
  • The president wrongly said, “After decades of flat and falling incomes, wages are rising fast.” They’ve gone up under Trump, but also have risen under the last several presidents.
  • Trump claimed that people’s 401(k)s and pensions have increased “60, 70, 80, 90, and 100% and even more.” Some may have, but that’s far higher than the average.
  • He said “real median household income is now at the highest level ever recorded.” However, the Census Bureau noted that was partly due to a change in survey questions in 2014. Based on “adjusted” figures, median household income was slightly higher in 1999 than in 2018.
  • Trump claimed the new trade agreement with Canada and Mexico “will create nearly 100,000 … auto jobs.” But an independent federal commission puts the job gains at 28,000 over five years.
  • The president boasted that “a long, tall, and very powerful wall is being built” along the southern border, and more than 100 miles have been completed. But only one mile is located where no barriers previously existed.
  • Trump said “illegal crossings” at the southwest border “are down 75% since May.” But total apprehensions in 2019 were 81% higher than in 2016, the year before Trump took office.
  • He said that “after losing 60,000 factories under the previous two administrations, America has now gained 12,000 new factories under my administration.” He’s referring to what the Bureau of Labor Statistics calls manufacturing “establishments,” and most of the growth under Trump has been in facilities with fewer than five employees.
  • Trump compared apples to oranges in claiming a doubling of insurance premiums in five years before he took office and “less expensive” plans under his administration.
  • The president said he made an “iron-clad” promise to “always protect patients with preexisting conditions,” but that ignores the fact he has supported Republican health plans that would reduce the current protections under the Affordable Care Act.
  • He suggested, misleadingly, that his administration was responsible for the U.S. becoming the world’s top producer of oil and natural gas. But the U.S. has been No. 1 in the world for natural gas for more than a decade, and tops in petroleum since 2013.
  • Trump said “300,000 working age people” left the workforce during Obama’s eight years. Actually, the workforce grew by 5.4 million.
 
ecco

ecco

Veteran Member
Someone should have thought to have the President Solemnly Swear to Tell the Truth during the State of the Union address.

He would have lied anyway, but this way he could have been impeached for lying to Congress while under oath.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
ecco said:
Someone should have thought to have the President Solemnly Swear to Tell the Truth during the State of the Union address.

He would have lied anyway, but this way he could have been impeached for lying to Congress while under oath.
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To those with acute TDS, if Trump says the sky is purple than to their mind anyone who says blue is wrong and just trying to slander Trump.
 
Stanyon

Stanyon

WWMRD?
ecco said:
Someone should have thought to have the President Solemnly Swear to Tell the Truth during the State of the Union address.

He would have lied anyway, but this way he could have been impeached for lying to Congress while under oath.
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Or democrats could just field better candidates and win in 2020 and save a lot of time, money, and effort?
 
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