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Featured Slavery in the Bible: more than meets the eye?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by whirlingmerc, Sep 16, 2019.

  1. whirlingmerc

    whirlingmerc Well-Known Member

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    Isn’t this interesting on slavery.

    Duet 23:15 “… “You shall not give up to his master a slave who has escaped from his master to you. He shall dwell with you, in your midst, in the place that he shall choose within one of your towns, wherever it suits him. You shall not wrong him…”

    You help return lost property in the last chapters but when it comes to slaves… you let them stay free.

    Freedom for slaves built into the law and in more than one way. The year of jubilee when slaves were set free another example. n
     
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  2. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    But, but, but... :mad:
    Dang it..!
     
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    Jesus is a servant of the God. So how is it that a servant of the God can be the God?
     
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  4. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Hello, how's the weather? You hear about any new card games or scientific discoveries lately?
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    but, but, but . . .

    You are right there is more citations in the OT to slavery, especially the differentiation between indentured servitude among Hebrews, and down right ownership of foreign slaves.

    The failure of the Bible to condemn all forms of slavery, and places it advocate slavery, has lead to torcherous history of slavery in Christianity, and Islam.
     
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    I don't want to say anything controversial here, so I won't. :p
     
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    Serfdom was close enough to slavery. People call American slavery Feudalism on occasion in history books. Are you trying to talk about a particular slavery? American Slavery? It seems like quotes on servants were more used. The Curse of Ham makes one man a servant to another. The commandments say do not want and steal a Servant. That's in regards to the Bible. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Horace Underwood quoted this on mission. Might I ask, are men and women still dissimilar? Are Jews and the rest of the world still dissimilar? Where is the work of Jesus Christ then in the work of making the slave and the free similar who are already in Jesus Christ?

    Galatians 3
     
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    Biblically what is called 'Serfdom?' was indentured servitude among Hebrews. Slavery was the ownership of foreigners to be bought and sold, also captured in war.
     
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    Three monkeys?
     
  13. MikeDwight

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    Ya I don't know, Feudalism, vs Iqta, vs tribalism, vs theocracy vs republics, land taxation systems... Serfdom and lack of industry, that definitely brought down Russia itself. Or invented Communism! Whatever.
     
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    FYI.
    The bible does condemn slavery.
    The slavery it speaks about is a humanitarian assistance to a poor family.
    Then there are laws prohibiting you to practice human trafficing.
    It does have hard labour to non Israelites who were not allowed to participate in the conscription in the military.
    But that is the same as say JW's refusing to bare arms, and they will be doing civil labour for a specific time.

    the only time slavery is found in the Bible, is when the Atheis ignore 99% of the regulations on "Slavery", and use single descriptions to create a strawman slavery impression.
    I attach a collection of everything the Bible say on the topic.
     

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    Different in office same in nature.

    In any case there are slaves and there are slaves. In a sense everyone is a slave to something. Being a slave to righteousness is certainly better than being a slave to evil.
     
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    whirlingmerc Well-Known Member

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    I don't think there is a verse saying slavery is good in the Bible.

    I think some like Oprah are looking to superficially at the issue and the Bible is painting a picture in some sense of freedom in Christ with the evils of the day.
     
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    Jesus could have been a slave to Death by serving the flesh or a slave to righteousness by being a servant of his God.
    As it is, we are all slaves to Death except by being in Christ.
     
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    So... what about that part where it states that you can literally beat a slave to within an inch of their life, and as long as the slave survives for at least a couple of days after this horrific beating, then the master who beat them in that way is not to be punished because the master has suffered enough by not having the slave labor for those few days. What about that? The Bible literally states this, in plain language.
     
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    Here's 10,000 words on the subject, demonstrating the Bible taught indentured servitude and not slavery, not that any atheist would dare to read the entire post:
    http://christianthinktank.com/qnoslave.html
     
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    Errn. That was hilarious. You made me chuckle a bit.
     
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