Simulated/Real Universe?

[Salvador]

I am unaware of any evidence that any machine structure has ever become conscious or has experiences, and you haven't cited any such evidence.


Prove it.

A "machine" is any causal physical system, hence we are machines; thus, machines can be conscious. The question is: What type of machines could be conscious? Odds are robots passing the Turing Test Turing test - Wikipedia would be indistinguishable from us in their behavioral capacities --and could be conscious (i.e. feel), but we can never be certain.

 

[Nous]

A "machine" is any causal physical system, hence we are machines; thus, machines can be conscious.

So you know of no evidence that any human-made machine structure has ever been conscious or has had experiences.

 

[Salvador]

So you know of no evidence that any human-made machine structure has ever been conscious or has had experiences.

That's correct, I know of no evidence that any human-made machine structure has ever been conscious or has had experiences.

However, I'm aware there is or has been an intelligence superior to that of any human intelligence presently bound to Earth, as evident by how the numeric and semantic message of 037 appears in our genetic code. Each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us descendants of our cosmic ancestor(s) with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.