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Featured Sign of the end (day of the LORD/judgment)?

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by 2ndpillar, Dec 30, 2017.

  1. 2ndpillar

    2ndpillar Well-Known Member

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    Revelation 9:17-18, whereas “one third of mankind is killed”, is about the day of the LORD, or as in Joel 2:31 states, the “awesome day of the LORD”. Maybe you just need a better bible translation. As for Jeremiah 30:11, that is when “I will destroy completely all the nations where I have scattered you”. That is with respect to Daniel 2:44, whereas the “stone made without hands”, the kingdom of God, to be ruled by “David” the “king” (Ezekiel 37:24), will “crush and put an end to all these kingdoms”. This all happens per Joel 2:31-Joel 3:2, on the “awesome day of the LORD” when “I will gather all the nations….and I will enter into judgment with them”.

    The sun has already turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, just recently, and all “before” the “awesome day of the LORD”.
     
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    2ndpillar Well-Known Member

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    It is the "Word of God" (Revelation 19:20), which is going to slay the "rest" (Revelation 9:21), not the word of men.
     
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    As to how do you get the third part of men killed.
    You actually believe that a third part of men are killed.

    Do you understand what the fire and by smoke and by the brimstone which issued out of their mouths Repsents ?

    You don't actually believe that people are going to have fire and smoke and brimstone coming out of their mouths.
    In Revelation 9:17-18.

    Do you understand what those breastplates of fire Repsents.
    Note that in the book of Exodus 28:3-4 that breastplates Repsents Aaron the high Priest.

    Therefore Breastplates Repsents, Priests,Pastors, Preachers. That the words coming out of their mouths are giving people a Spiritual death In deceving people.
     
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    If what you are saying is true, which it is not, then Christianity would be much popular than it is. The problem is with people like you is that you idolize the words of the Bible. You are not religious. You more like an NFL football fan than you are someone who believes in what you are touting.

    google "worst passages of the bible" and look at the ones that get listed. There are so many immoral acts in scripture that are implied to be morally okay it is stunning. Clearly the Bible was written by men.

    However, regardless, your faith should be much stronger than anything I say. Your faith should also be stronger than all the evil passages in the Bible implying cannibalism, rape, killing babies, scapegoating, or slavery is morally okay.

    But the Bible being the written by men is not my criticism of you. You quote scripture like a robot. The only way to truly understand any topic is to write about it in your own words.
     
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    Being as “Scripture cannot be broken” (John 10:35), I will stick with that “Law and the prophets” encapsulated in the OT. As for my reference of Revelation 19:20, that is with respect to the future, but the metaphysics work today, but is limited to the non “wicked”as cited in Daniel 12:10.

    You will have to rely on your own self help, which apparently has not shown you as an exemplary of wisdom.

    As for you considering me “not religious”, I will take that as a compliment (James 1:26-27). As for my quoting the bible like a robot, I simply know what the “Scripture” is composed of, and what can be pulled from within the bible, both the wheat, the good, and the tare seed, which is bad. The Word of God, combined with the Spirit of God, is a weapon which as shown in Revelalation 19:20, has the strength to slay the wicked. The time of (Revelation 19:20) is still behind the door. (Matthew 24:33).
     
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    Thanks for at least trying to answer some your own questions, regardless how silly your answers sound.

    I think you will find that “a third of mankind was killed by these three plagues, by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone” and although they had appearance of the “locusts” was like horses, “their wings” as in the wings of a Scorpion helicopter or Cobra attack helicopter, “was like the sound of chariots”. You are confusing “horses” with “people”. As shown in Zechariah 12:4, the “horse of the peoples”/nations/Gentiles, will be struck with “blindness”. With respect to the 1967 war, this would be with respect to the mechanical vehicles, such as Russian tanks, which became ineffective. The term “locusts with the appearance of horses prepared for battle”, was not referring to horses in actually, and certainly not to “people”.

    Revelation 9:17



    17And this is how I saw in the vision the horses and those who sat on them: the riders had breastplates the color of fire and of hyacinth and of brimstone; and the heads of the horses are like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths proceed fire and smoke and brimstone. 18A third of mankind was killed by these three plagues, by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which proceeded out of their mouths. 19For the power of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents and have heads, and with them they do harm.
     
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    You are so full of hate. I wish you the best of God's blessings.
     
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    What does it mean in Revelation 9:17 that the horses were as the heads of Lions and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone ?

    You actually believe that fire and smoke and brimstone is actually coming out of Actual horse's.

    Do you know what the Locust army is.

    Do you know what it means in
    Revelation 9:3--"And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power"
     
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    I am all ears. What does it mean?
     
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    Do you understand the migration of locust. That when you look at a swarm of locust from a distance, they appear like a dark cloud coming over the land.

    Understand scorpions, what they do to their prey, once they inject their prey with their poisonous venom.

    God uses locust and scorpions to Represent People.
     
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    Let me get this straight. Somehow you come up with 200 million people. I suppose you mean Paul’s teachers, pastors, etc., who “inject their prey with poisonous venom”, for 5 months, but for some reason, the prey cannot die but surely wish to do so. And who is the “king over them” called “Apollyon”, is that Paul rising from the dead? I have to question that, since I thought I saw Paul’s demon spirit manipulating Hussein Obama (Revelation 16:13-16) already.

    Did you see the article on the incomes of Paul’s pastors, which includes the likes of Franklin Graham, who makes $800,000/year? $600,000 of that comes from him supervising his charity. You see, charity starts at home.
     
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    Who do you think the king is, that is king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit. Revelation 9:11
     
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    You are delusional. There is wicked everywhere. People just don't accept your way of thinking. There are 7 billion people on the planet. Most of them are not Christians. Do you believe Jesus is the only path to salvation and those other billions of people are going to go to Hell? I think your understanding of God is too limited to be useful.
     
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    People praying for innocent women and children to die horrible deaths with mayhem and suffering. That's the Christianity I know and love! Why are Christians so FULL of hate????
     
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    Explain yourself, what do you mean people praying for innocent women and children to die horrible deaths, as to where do you get this at ?
     
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    And what is my way of thinking? The “Christians” are generally associated with the “mark of the beast”, and are looking at having to drink from the cup of the wrath of God (Revelation14:10). People at the “white throne judgment” (Revelation 20:11-13) are to be judged by their deeds, not their false beliefs. The “wicked”, such as the murders, and liars are looking at a recompense, whether they have prayed their magic prayer, or not. You may hate “Christians” for good or not, but I certainly do not hold to their false gospel of grace, which is the work of the false prophet Paul.
     
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    Apollyon means "destroyer". That is who the king is. You will also find the god, the "destroyer", Shiva, in the foyer of the physics lab at Cern, whose favorite phrase is "Time I am, the destroyer of worlds." The physicist think they can do time warp by creating a black hole. If you want to experience real destruction, get close to a black hole.
     
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    So who's the destroyer king of the bottomless pit, Whats his name ?
     
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    I believe this is too nebulous. Does it mean the very last person in the world? Who knows? And who would know when the last person is reached? All that can be said is that we have preached the gospel all over the world so we ought to be fairly close to the end.
     
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    Wouldn't it be great if an asteroid hit Yellowstone? I believe it would be a double whammy. The problem is that asteroids and giant earthquakes don't announce themselves. You can't go by tremors since they happen all the time.
     
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