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Featured Shroud of Turin is from first AD.

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by questfortruth, Jun 26, 2022.

  1. firedragon

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    Let's say the Shroud of Turin is from the first century. Hypothetically. How do you know it has anything to do with Jesus himself?

    And hypothetically, lets say it is directly related to Jesus, how does it prove He is God?
     
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    What is in whose books? Anyone else noticed when his hyperbole is challenged his posts become more and more cryptic, even his English seems to suffer. I am starting to wonder if isn't an evasive tactic.
     
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    Which book?
     
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    They don't have to disagree, the scientists doing the peer review advised caution before reaching any conclusions about the results, as it contradicts earlier research, and is a new method of dating. That aside even were it objectively demonstrated as accurate, it would not support your assumptions about the relic and an extant deity.
     
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    Erm, because you are insecure enough to actually need praise? :oops:
     
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    X-ray Dating of a Turin Shroud’s Linen Sample
     
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    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Yup, I've noticed that for some time
     
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    Would you call it as hominem if someone called you gullible for a self proclaimed sitcom actor?
     
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    The Principle of Sufficient Reason. Look in above posts.
     
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    Introduction to Nihilism, Zoratusta.
     
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    No, I haven’t noticed, you may be reading into something that’s not there
     
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    "As Christians, and in the light of the Scriptures, continues Pope Francis, “we contemplate in this Cloth the icon of the Lord Jesus crucified, dead and risen."
    Pope Francis

    To 'contemplate' as an 'icon' is not to authenticate.
     
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    Italian scientist Luigi Garlachelli reproduced a full-sized replica of the Shroud of Turin using materials and techniques that were available in the 13th century.

    Luigi Garlaschelli's team of scientists placed a linen sheet flat over a volunteer and then rubbed the sheet with an acidic pigment. They used a mask for the face.

    The pigment's aged appearance was made by heating the cloth in an oven and washing it, this process removed it from the surface while leaving a fuzzy, half-tone image similar to that on the Shroud of Turin. The original Shroud of Turin's pigment may very well have faded naturally over the course of many centuries,

    Reference: Life-size Reproduction of the Shroud of Turin and its Image.
    Journal of Imaging Science and Technology, 2010 Garlachelli, Luigi

    IS&T | Library (imaging.org)


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    It is mistake of a Christian to debunk proofs of God. It is the job of Atheists.
     
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    You have not understood PSR from Adam.
     
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    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    Christians can not research their own religious belief or history?

    Do you mean to say everyone who are not christians are atheists?
     
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    Tell me more. I do not trust you.
     
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    Fine then, I shall refrain from behaving like a non-believer!
     
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    Not, if that blocks the atheists from salvation. To be saved for wrong reasons means to be saved.
     
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