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Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man in the Shroud is Jesus Christ

brian100

Member
Look what I found on the Shroud and it proves its Jesus Christ!

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Immaculate Heart of Mary & Sacred Heart (nuns threw water on it to put out the fire in the 1500's and the water stains formed those images.

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danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Look what I found on the Shroud and it proves its Jesus Christ!

shroud102.jpg


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Immaculate Heart of Mary & Sacred Heart (nuns thew water on it to put out the fire in the 1500's and the water stains formed those images.

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So some Pareidolia on a known fake proves its Jesus?

The standards of evidence just get lower all the time
 

brian100

Member
The internet: a place where humans can slap together an image and claim it is "absolute proof" something.

Have anything that's passed peer review in a reputable academic journal? I don't have a cat in this box either way, but I have standards...

Its well documented.

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Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I see the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary there on his Shroud.
Only Catholic people would see that as significant.....since there is nothing like that mentioned in connection with either Jesus or Mary in the scriptures.

The cloth covering Jesus' head was separate to the wrappings covering his body.

John 20:6 from the RSV Catholic Edition....
"Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb. He saw the linen wrappings lying there, 7 and the cloth that had been on Jesus’ head, not lying with the linen wrappings but rolled up in a place by itself."

There are linen "wrappings" mentioned here by the Apostle John.....not a shroud.
It is also mentioned by him in relation to the death of Lazarus.....
John 11:44...
"The dead man came out, his hands and feet bound with strips of cloth, and his face wrapped in a cloth. Jesus said to them, “Unbind him, and let him go.”

There is scripturally no case for a shroud being used for a first century Jewish burial.

Besides that, making an idol out of material things is forbidden to God's worshippers so there is nothing of a material nature (no relics) that should be revered or feature in our worship...this would include icons and statuary. (Exodus 20:4-5)
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
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Stigmata a detailed and documented Genetic attack, sacrifice and leaving of genetics, was the teaching. Documents said the coat of many colours/atmospheric gases had been replaced by wandering star, the human baby DNA genetics had healed/returned and spiritual life reincarnated.

A MEDICAL teaching.

We all live in the same environment, so all animal bodies and cells change and become food that should not be eaten.....as said before cows got irradiated, no longer eaten became a holy idol, the same as pigs...and in modern times bats.

Humans make idols in life due to acute fear.

Ever wonder why science in energy resourcing is a liar?

stigmata photos - Bing images

Cornelia Zangheri Bandi - Wikipedia

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/8200790/spontaneous-human-combustion-real-
burns-incendiary-bomb-scientist-claims/


Jesus empty tomb. Spirit gases cold gases without light, so the spirit is deceased. Light gases burning own the light of life. Those gases were set alight and came out and arose from the stone. Gases/spirit burning alight from out of God was why life was sacrificed, how the Genetic attack was stated.

Historically the AI encoded human memory said that the pyramid was researched to remove self body and time transport it back to spirit....which is a gas alight.

Seeing mountain mass was removed physically by the UFO, as time transportation, natural gases alight and cooled/atmosphere existed in that research, as did water. Yet mass ground water evaporation why the UFO attack on Earth was stopped.

Common human sense is all that is needed to tell the story attack/sacrifice on human life.

God/Earth O body was stated to be Holy and all holy bodies owned a law that forbade any change. What a holy law meant....which was Holy heavenly atmosphere, same reason. Holy chemical dusts, same reason.

When a human in science preached that humans got sent to Hell, they meant humans got sent to Hell, the spirit of the human relies on a cold atmospheric gas.

Information, being data and the telling of the story is what saved human life. The same as scientific studies done in modern times....data and detailed studies applied to prove that science attacks life. Our atmospheric spirit/gases was always natural, and we survive in the natural condition. A book and data was written for proof to stop life being sacrificed, the meaning of its writing.
 
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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
To add something more productive, it's worth remembering that pattern recognition is very important in humans and other animals. It is one of the major ways animals process sensory data to navigate their environments, which is vital for survival and was thus heavily selected for. Pattern recognition can, however, go awry (or be taken advantage of).

In the context of religious experiences, pattern recognition plays a vital role in the creation of deeper meaning from events in our lives. While we could dismiss these occurrences as pattern recognition going awry, that's too simplistic. We love weaving story into life events - it helps us bond with each other and grapple with existential questions.

So while patterns on some shroud may be "random patterns" in the objective sense, that doesn't matter in the mythic sense. These stories we tell have great value to some, and that's something I respect even if I don't respect the likely errors in judgement.
 
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