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Should we use science to examine UFOs or not?

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Nimos, Feb 16, 2020.

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

    3 vote(s)
    37.5%
  1. Nimos

    Nimos Well-Known Member

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    After his presentation, what do you think?
     
  2. Wandering Monk

    Wandering Monk Well-Known Member

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    If you want to know what's real, you have to use science.
     
  3. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    If you find a UFO, absolutely use science to study it. You have to find one, first, though.
     
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  4. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member

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    We should and do. How else would we know the mundane explanations for so many UFO sightings? (the video casually dismisses all of them to support the strawman claim that the scientific community doesn't accept that UFOs are "real"). The problem with many of the remaining cases is that there is typically very limited concrete information about them and therefore limited scope for further study. That's why the scientific conclusion of "we don't know" is applied to them.

    He makes a brief argument for some kind of UFO detection network though doesn't seem to have any details of what would actually be measured beyond what already is by existing air-traffic, military and meteorological systems.

    Often people who talk about wanting UFOs "scientifically" studied instantly make basic scientific errors, such as making statements like "UFOs are real", implying that every single reported sighting involved actual observation of real physical objects in the air or suggesting that studying UFOs alone could somehow prove the existence or extraterrestrial aliens. It would take a whole load more than just UFOs to achieve that were it true.

    He seems very keen to blame the "taboo" on others but doesn't seem to mention the main cause which are all the kooks who have definitively decided UFOs are aliens spaceships and spout all sorts of unscientific rubbish on the topic. And while he isn't doing that here, I could help noticing the throwaway comment he makes around 2:15 where he talks about ideas of little green men and says "...though it turns out they're probably grey..." which suggests something of a bias on his part too.
     
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  5. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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