Should we respect each others privacy?

[Vinayaka]

One can walk through a busy place, filled with people, and still feel alone. You have to engage with someone for the privacy to break. You can go to a beach, and not talk to anyone at all. So 'privacy' is in your head, not in your surroundings.

As far as this forum goes, the very fact that you come here means you want to engage with people.

But for sure, if a person indicates they want privacy, then it ought to be respected.

 

[Spirit of Light]

One can walk through a busy place, filled with people, and still feel alone. You have to engage with someone for the privacy to break. You can go to a beach, and not talk to anyone at all. So 'privacy' is in your head, not in your surroundings.

As far as this forum goes, the very fact that you come here means you want to engage with people.

But for sure, if a person indicates they want privacy, then it ought to be respected.

The reason for my OP was from an other thread where someone added a Naked photo, To me that is not something we need to do in a religious form.
I do not see my self as extreme in my practice, but call it that i choose to be strict with some points within the practice. and nudity of others is of no interest for me.
I can only speak for my self and i do respect that other people are more free in the expression. But nudity in a RF?

 

[Vinayaka]

The reason for my OP was from an other thread where someone added a Naked photo, To me that is not something we need to do in a religious form.
I do not see my self as extreme in my practice, but call it that i choose to be strict with some points within the practice. and nudity of others is of no interest for me.
I can only speak for my self and i do respect that other people are more free in the expression. But nudity in a RF?

Not much bothers me personally, but I respect the right of others to be bothered. I've accidentally hit on porn sites while browsing. I just hit the 'close' button and move on. No big deal. Nudity is a natural phenomena. Amongst some tribals I think over a few weeks one would get very used to it. I wonder if those folks are repulsed by clothing. Completely covered people (in Islam) don't bother me either. We're all souls, not clothing, or lack of it.

 

[SalixIncendium]

The reason for my OP was from an other thread where someone added a Naked photo, To me that is not something we need to do in a religious form.
I do not see my self as extreme in my practice, but call it that i choose to be strict with some points within the practice. and nudity of others is of no interest for me.
I can only speak for my self and i do respect that other people are more free in the expression. But nudity in a RF?

While admittedly the photo was inappropriate for a public audience and at the very least should have been spoilered (as it turns out it was removed), this is a public forum, so expecting everything that is posted here to be in line with your worldview is a bit unreasonable, IMO.

After all, you did click on a thread that had "women's cleavage" in the title.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Not much bothers me personally, but I respect the right of others to be bothered. I've accidentally hit on porn sites while browsing. I just hit the 'close' button and move on. No big deal. Nudity is a natural phenomena. Amongst some tribals I think over a few weeks one would get very used to it. I wonder if those folks are repulsed by clothing. Completely covered people (in Islam) don't bother me either. We're all souls, not clothing, or lack of it.

I do not disagree with you But nakedness is a thing for the home, not for the public. But again, others see it differently then I do, and i do understand my view is in minority also on this forum

 

[Vinayaka]

I do not disagree with you But nakedness is a thing for the home, not for the public. But again, others see it differently then I do, and i do understand my view is in minority also on this forum

I wouldn't like it in public either, where it's rare. It wouldn't bother me personally, but I'd be bothered by how it bothers others. Driving comes to mind. I want other drivers focused on the road, not the sidewalk.

 

[Jedster]

No but i found that use of clothes are a good thing, no need to show the body to others.

Everyone knows what the human body looks like; the taboo against nakedness is only a cultural thing which most religions fuss about.
If it affects you negatively, then you are not completely detached from 'worldly' things.
That makes you human

 

[Spirit of Light]

Everyone knows what the human body looks like; the taboo against nakedness is only a cultural thing which most religions fuss about.
If it affects you negatively, then you are not completely detached from 'worldly' things.
That makes you human

True i still have some few attachments, but it is a progress of the cultivation of buddha dhamma. And yes i am a human

 

[LuisDantas]

I think it is important that we can be respectful toward each other and try to not overstep someone boundaries when it comes to privacy.

For those who take spiritual practice serious life is not about sex, body, alcohol, party, and so on. Life is about the inner journey, but sometimes it seems like people do not respect it in a public place.

So my question is. Should those who take spiritual path serious, be the one who must pull away from society because others want to be so called free to do what ever they want?

No, I don't think so.

It may be necessary, I suppose. But it should not be a goal. For various reasons, which are mostly manifestations of interdependent origination, that would be a very dangerous goal.

 

[Jedster]

While admittedly the photo was inappropriate for a public audience and at the very least should have been spoilered (as it turns out it was removed), this is a public forum, so expecting everything that is posted here to be in line with your worldview is a bit unreasonable, IMO.

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I find it somewhat ironic that the first thing most of us experience after birth is the comfort and nourishment of a woman's breast.
This should be a celebration of life not something hidden.
I don't mean women should go around naked, however they should not be made to feel inhibited in the way they want to dress, (especially in hot weather).

 

[Daemon Sophic]

For a Christian person it migtht be as you say. But for a cultivating buddhist one can pull back from society and consentrate on the dhamma and the world within the mind. There is not much in this world that is needed to cling to, and if it does not help the cultivation why take time away from meditation to do other things?

While that may be true, was not the teaching of Buddha, “the middle path”.
As I recall, he rejected extremism/asceticism and stated that the one should be able to live in the real world without being consumed by it.
Wasn’t he challenged and tempted by the demon Mara while under the Bodhi tree? Yet without foregoing all enjoyment that life offers he banished the demon?

Seclusion is enjoyable, and is of comfort/assistance during meditation, but optimally one should be able to live in the real world with all humanity, in all their forms, yet maintain inner peace.

Namaste.

 

[Spirit of Light]

While that may be true, was not the teaching of Buddha, “the middle path”.
As I recall, he rejected extremism/asceticism and stated that the one should be able to live in the real world without being consumed by it.
Wasn’t he challenged and tempted by the demon Mara while under the Bodhi tree? Yet without foregoing all enjoyment that life offers he banished the demon?

Seclusion is enjoyable, and is of comfort/assistance during meditation, but optimally one should be able to live in the real world with all humanity, in all their forms, yet maintain inner peace.

Namaste.

Yes Buddhism is the middle way, and yes Buddha did wander from village to village, but both Buddha and his followers did take longer time away from society, and they always had the resting area outside the villages they walk to.
Buddhism is two parts where some chooses to be a monk/nun and some choose a laymans life. I am not yet ready as a monk, but it will become so in this life time.

A buddhist cultivate the mind to let go of attachments to every aspect of human life, So i do not say a naked body is wrong, But what i say is showing naked body in a forum like this, should be avoided.

 

[Vee]

I think it is important that we can be respectful toward each other and try to not overstep someone boundaries when it comes to privacy.

For those who take spiritual practice serious life is not about sex, body, alcohol, party, and so on. Life is about the inner journey, but sometimes it seems like people do not respect it in a public place.

So my question is. Should those who take spiritual path serious, be the one who must pull away from society because others want to be socalled free to do what ever they want?

It's tricky because people have very different opinions of what freedom means. In the past many things were forbidden and people felt restrained all the time. That was unfair and unpleasant so people fought for more freedom. Now we're in the other extreme, where pretty much everything goes and whoever doesn't like it has to live with it or stay home.
Sometimes I see people behaving in ways that I find very disrespectful. Like making out in public, shouting obscenities, blowing their cigarette smoke into someone else's face... But I know that if I say something I'll likely just get insulted (it has happened before) so I just go somewhere else. It makes me sad that basic social standards are so low and that morals have nearly disappeared, but at this point all I can do is give a good example myself.

 

[Spirit of Light]

It's tricky because people have very different opinions of what freedom means. In the past many things were forbidden and people felt restrained all the time. That was unfair and unpleasant so people fought for more freedom. Now we're in the other extreme, where pretty much everything goes and whoever doesn't like it has to live with it or stay home.
Sometimes I see people behaving in ways that I find very disrespectful. Like making out in public, shouting obscenities, blowing their cigarette smoke into someone else's face... But I know that if I say something I'll likely just get insulted (it has happened before) so I just go somewhere else. It makes me sad that basic social standards are so low and that morals have nearly disappeared, but at this point all I can do is give a good example myself.

Agree with you in this

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

While admittedly the photo was inappropriate for a public audience and at the very least should have been spoilered (as it turns out it was removed), this is a public forum, so expecting everything that is posted here to be in line with your worldview is a bit unreasonable, IMO.

After all, you did click on a thread that had "women's cleavage" in the title.

I more or less agree with the consensus expressed here.

That being said, on a funnier, lighter note, here was my attitude in that thread:

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Just out of curiosity, were you guys born fully clothed?

There is a wisdom in modesty. God teaches thatand other virtue for a very good reason.

The innocence of a child and the dignity of the eldery is another aspect of life.

Regards Tony

 

[SalixIncendium]

There is a wisdom in modesty. God teaches thatand other virtue for a very good reason.

The innocence of a child and the dignity of the eldery is another aspect of life.

Regards Tony

Please share with us this "very good reason" for this modesty as it relates to clothing.

 

[osgart]

If you do not filter through the world you would go insane. Everyone needs their own environment, space and place of their own.
If I constantly submerge myself in the world culture then i drown my own voice out. Recklessly joining up with the world is highly unhealthy. You need to navigate it.

Privacy is a need.

A lot of people do not desire to go with the flow of all the norms in society. Thats a good thing.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Please share with us this "very good reason" for this modesty as it relates to clothing.

That I will leave to you to find for ones own self. There are many aspects of faith that require an individual to search and find for thier own selves, or it is all meaningless.

I would offer that I see the mind of Humanity is collective and that all thoughts of individuals, make up the whole. Thus if we wish to rid the world of violence we must elimintae that first from our own mind and encourage those that have not, the wisdom to attempt that change.

Thus I see a good reason to keep my mind as pure as possible, is for the good of all people.

Modesty thus needs a balance between the full burka and the next to nothing for both men and women.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

True i still have some few attachments, but it is a progress of the cultivation of buddha dhamma. And yes i am a human

One can be attached to detachment as well.

I see that we have to create a balance in life and part of that balance is to contribute.

It may be the best extreme, if there is one, is not withdrawal, but in full service to all others.

Regards Tony