Should gun ownership be legalised in the UK?

[Ukonkivi]

Anything can be a tool of murder if one intends it to be.
And for that reason, I say yes.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people!

People with guns kill people!

People with guns sometimes kill people.
People with knifes, forks, icepicks, baseball bats, poison, glass, fingernail files, scissors, bathtubs, jumprope, and frying pans kill people.

You can kill someone with a spoon if you add enough blunt force.

 

[monta]

I was just mocking that guns don't kill people bumber sticker philosophy in another thread

 

[Ukonkivi]

Oh, were you?
Well, in case you couldn't tell, I wasn't putting forth that philosophy either, and kind of mocking both common statements and responding to them.

I dearly hope that facepalm wasn't directed at me.

 

[kai]

Anything can be a tool of murder if one intends it to be.
And for that reason, I say yes.



People with guns sometimes kill people.
People with knifes, forks, icepicks, baseball bats, poison, glass, fingernail files, scissors, bathtubs, jumprope, and frying pans kill people.

You can kill someone with a spoon if you add enough blunt force.

so do you advocate no weapons control at all?

 

[Ukonkivi]

I'm not fond of law in general.
I would say that especially includes things like weapon control.

 

[Tiapan]

I think a simple look at homicide statistics shows private gun ownership is a disaster where ever it occurs.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

The British have been through a long process of moving from universal gun ownership to the present highly restricted one. Up to the second world war there were not many restrictions on gun ownership at all.
The biggest benefit has been that people are very rarely shot by burglars or robbers. It is now hardly a blip on the statistics for a member of the general public to be shot by a criminal.

Most gun crime is between members of the criminal world themselves, with the occasional crime of passion between couples and family members.

there is a direct correlation between gun ownership and gun crime, and accidental death caused by misuse of guns.

In a well regulated society wanting to own, or owning guns is a clear demonstration of a personality defect.

 

[Revoltingest]

In a well regulated society wanting to own, or owning guns is a clear demonstration of a personality defect.

Well....your mother's a poopy head!
Now that this is out of the way, consider that we don't live in a well regulated society. Many would like us to be one, eg, more surveillance, more cops keeping us from selling loosies, longer prison sentences. I'm not comfortable with that.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I would hate for gun-ownership to become the norm in the UK. Many years ago I served as a machine-gunner in an Army Reserve infantry battalion, so I do know a little bit about guns.

 

[Revoltingest]

I would hate for gun-ownership to become the norm in the UK. Many years ago I served as a machine-gunner in an Army Reserve infantry battalion, so I do know a little bit about guns.

I agree that you Brits shouldn't be armed. At least OldBadger shouldn't be.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I agree that you Brits shouldn't be armed.

The Scots certainly shouldn't be armed.

 

[Revoltingest]

The Scots certainly shouldn't be armed.

Aye, cuz ya wanna keep'm down! All the real Scots moved to the hills in Appalachia. Try conquer'n them, ya powdered wig wear'n limey poof poofs!

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Blasted colonials, still don't know their place, I say, old chap, what is a gentleman to do?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Well....your mother's a poopy head!
Now that this is out of the way, consider that we don't live in a well regulated society. Many would like us to be one, eg, more surveillance, more cops keeping us from selling loosies, longer prison sentences. I'm not comfortable with that.

The uk has less surveillance, very many fewer armed police. Less severe prison conditions and shorter sentences. And fewer armed criminals.
Arms are not part of the day to day expectation.

The only discipline that really works is self discipline.
A well regulated society is one that regulates itself, for the mosr part from choice.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

The uk is not short of people who can shoot.
I am too old to even care, but I was an army marksman, many years ago.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I was an army marksman, many years ago.

What unit were you in? I shot at the National Rifle Championships ( Bisley ) one year while I was in the TA - didn't win anything but it was good weekend!

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

It would mean the Government couldn't try anything stupid and it would also help the crime rates go down ..

The government has drones, bro. What do you want us to have, surface to air missiles?

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

No, it's a stupid idea as much as it is anathema to the social norms and values of most British people.

Thank God gun ownership isn't legal at all in this country; and I hope it stays that way!

 

[oldbadger]

It would mean the Government couldn't try anything stupid and it would also help the crime rates go down ..

THREAD:
Should gun ownership be legalised in the UK?

It already is legalised! I know quite a few people who have guns.

But pistols and hand-guns? No.
I never feel at risk when I go out, anywhere, anytime, but if handguns were everywhere it would change my freedom and mindset considerably.

 

[McBell]

THREAD:
Should gun ownership be legalised in the UK?

It already is legalised! I know quite a few people who have guns.

But pistols and hand-guns? No.
I never feel at risk when I go out, anywhere, anytime, but if handguns were everywhere it would change my freedom and mindset considerably.

sad you have such a low opinion of your fellow humans