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Should Donald Trump be Sentenced to Jail for 34 Felonies?

Laniakea

Not of this world
well you could actually look at the evidence and watch the original and cropped videos But why would anyone do that?
Video not cropped. It's the way video looks when a smartphone is held upright instead of horizontal when taking a video. You'll see some examples of that on Youtube as well. Sometimes it's just easier to hold the phone upright, same as when you're using it to talk to someone or do texting.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Good grief, we all know Joe Biden is Hunter Biden's father. I was playing around with your poor wording.

Where we differ is that you seem to think that Joe Biden is responsible for everything is son does. Which, of course, is absurd. And I'm guessing you don't apply the same standards elsewhere.

At least you didn't respond to anything that was said to you.
Again.
Ok, so you acknowledge that Joe Biden IS Hunter Biden's father, even though you repeatedly said:

SkepticThinker said:
Joe is not his father. Joe is Joe.
 

Argentbear

Active Member
Video not cropped. It's the way video looks when a smartphone is held upright instead of horizontal when taking a video. You'll see some examples of that on Youtube as well. Sometimes it's just easier to hold the phone upright, same as when you're using it to talk to someone or do texting.
well here is what the New York Post presented:

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and her is the actual video Time stamp 7:00 to 7:20



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fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Video not cropped. It's the way video looks when a smartphone is held upright instead of horizontal when taking a video.
This is just not true and it has been proven that this is not true. The video was cropped. It was not taken with a smartphone being held upright. It was cropped to look like a video taken from a smartphone being held upright. And it was cropped and edited to lead to a false impression.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
well here is what the New York Post presented:

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and her is the actual video Time stamp 7:00 to 7:20



Link
Well, that just opens up a new and bigger can of worms to deal with.
Watch 6:58 to 7:10. Everyone (except for Biden) is applauding the skydivers after they landed. Biden spends that time staring off into space as if he doesn't even realize what's going on. Right after that, he starts wandering off, which underscores the fact he didn't know what was going on.

Then starting at 10:34, the skydivers walk down the line of world leaders saluting the leader and shaking their hand. Everyone (except Biden) knew to simply shake their hand. But Biden salutes them first instead. See 10:39, 11:08, 11:31 for examples.
Sure, you could say he was trying to be polite. But why, just why is Joe Biden the only world leader standing there who doesn't know the proper protocol for any situation when everyone else around him does?

Then there he is from 13:17 to 13:34 just wandering again like he doesn't know where he's supposed to go.
All of this just makes him look like a weak leader in the presence of so many other world leaders who look they know exactly what to do.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Well, that just opens up a new and bigger can of worms to deal with.
Watch 6:58 to 7:10. Everyone (except for Biden) is applauding the skydivers after they landed. Biden spends that time staring off into space as if he doesn't even realize what's going on. Right after that, he starts wandering off, which underscores the fact he didn't know what was going on.

No, he is looking at the sky divers that he went up to talk to. Just because you do not know who is off to the right does not mean that there was no one there. They were not magically teleported in at the last second.

Just admit that you were taken in by right wing sources and move on.
Then starting at 10:34, the skydivers walk down the line of world leaders saluting the leader and shaking their hand. Everyone (except Biden) knew to simply shake their hand. But Biden salutes them first instead. See 10:39, 11:08, 11:31 for examples.
Sure, you could say he was trying to be polite. But why, just why is Joe Biden the only world leader standing there who doesn't know the proper protocol for any situation when everyone else around him does?
Actually as Commander in Chief it is proper for the President to salute soldiers. At least it has been for a while. It was first done by Ronald Reagan and has been polite gesture of the President ever since:


He does not have to return a salute since he is not in uniform. It is a way of picking out and honoring individual soldiers or a group of soldiers.


Then there he is from 13:17 to 13:34 just wandering again like he doesn't know where he's supposed to go.
All of this just makes him look like a weak leader in the presence of so many other world leaders who look they know exactly what to do.
Again, how do you know? I have not checked that out yet, but you often cannot see what a person is reacting to. For example when Trump waves to nobody some groups have gone out of their way to catch multiple camera angles to show that there is no one there.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
No, he is looking at the sky divers that he went up to talk to. Just because you do not know who is off to the right does not mean that there was no one there. They were not magically teleported in at the last second.

Just admit that you were taken in by right wing sources and move on.

Actually as Commander in Chief it is proper for the President to salute soldiers. At least it has been for a while. It was first done by Ronald Reagan and has been polite gesture of the President ever since:


He does not have to return a salute since he is not in uniform. It is a way of picking out and honoring individual soldiers or a group of soldiers.



Again, how do you know? I have not checked that out yet, but you often cannot see what a person is reacting to. For example when Trump waves to nobody some groups have gone out of their way to catch multiple camera angles to show that there is no one there.
IIRC, soldiers salute, POTUS returns it, unless the soldier holds a medal of honor. In that case, vice versa.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
No, he is looking at the sky divers that he went up to talk to. Just because you do not know who is off to the right does not mean that there was no one there. They were not magically teleported in at the last second.

Just admit that you were taken in by right wing sources and move on.

He hadn't gone up to anyone at that point. You're obviously just replying without watching the video first.

Actually as Commander in Chief it is proper for the President to salute soldiers. At least it has been for a while. It was first done by Ronald Reagan and has been polite gesture of the President ever since:

American soldiers, yes. Not soldiers from a different country.

Again, how do you know? I have not checked that out yet, but you often cannot see what a person is reacting to. For example when Trump waves to nobody some groups have gone out of their way to catch multiple camera angles to show that there is no one there.

Multiple camera angles provide context and confirmation. If "some groups" go out of their way to confirm with multiple angles, then they are providing further evidence that he was waving at someone who wasn't actually there, just as he tries to shake hands with people who aren't there on a regular basis.
If it was only one camera angle that showed it, then you might have a point.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
He hadn't gone up to anyone at that point. You're obviously just replying without watching the video first.
LOL! I could say the same about you. He looked, he watched a bit, he went up to them.
American soldiers, yes. Not soldiers from a different country.

Why not?
Multiple camera angles provide context and confirmation. If "some groups" go out of their way to confirm with multiple angles, then they are providing further evidence that he was waving at someone who wasn't actually there, just as he tries to shake hands with people who aren't there on a regular basis.
If it was only one camera angle that showed it, then you might have a point.
They really do not. As usual you are just cherry picking. At the end he was going from one group to another. That was all. He was done with the soldiers and he was joining Macron.

Biden is not a spring chicken. It does take him some time to get from point A to point B, but at no time was he wandering.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Video not cropped. It's the way video looks when a smartphone is held upright instead of horizontal when taking a video. You'll see some examples of that on Youtube as well. Sometimes it's just easier to hold the phone upright, same as when you're using it to talk to someone or do texting.
It is so obviously cropped, it's not even funny.

That is absolutely NOT what a smartphone looks like when held upright. I have one.

Also, we actually have the footage of the edited out parts. Good grief. There's no question the video has been cropped.

Just admit you've been had and move on. It's okay.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
LOL! I could say the same about you. He looked, he watched a bit, he went up to them.

Nope. You can't, at least not truthfully. I'm describing exactly what the video showed, along with the times it occurred. The skydivers landed, everyone (but Biden) applauded, and Biden just stared around like he didn't know what was happening.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Nope. You can't, at least not truthfully. I'm describing exactly what the video showed, along with the times it occurred. The skydivers landed, everyone (but Biden) applauded, and Biden just stared around like he didn't know what was happening.
Yes, I can truthfully say that those men were not teleported into position. If that technology existed and it was secret they would not let the secret out in such a fashion.

You should try to reason critically some time. It really works.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
It is so obviously cropped, it's not even funny.

That is absolutely NOT what a smartphone looks like when held upright. I have one.

Also, we actually have the footage of the edited out parts. Good grief. There's no question the video has been cropped.

Just admit you've been had and move on. It's okay.
I have a smartphone as well. I usually hold it horizontal so the video displays correctly on a widescreen monitor. Recently I had to mount the phone to a long stick so I could hold it up high enough to see the condition of my house's roof. It was positioned vertically and the video image was cut off at the sides as well, just as we see in the one of Biden that people claim is edited.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Yes, I can truthfully say that those men were not teleported into position. If that technology existed and it was secret they would not let the secret out in such a fashion.

You should try to reason critically some time. It really works.
Such as saying "I can truthfully say that those men were not teleported into position."?
Is that what you consider to be reasoning critically?
 
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